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Old 08-16-2007, 09:24 AM
theblitz theblitz is offline
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Default Nut flush and nut low draws facing all-in - easy call?

I am new to Hi/Lo so please be nice.

Is this an easy call?

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $145.65
Hero: $100
MP1: $83.15
MP2: $65.35
CO: $92.30
Button: $35.50
SB: $39.05
BB: $98

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero calls, 3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $4</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $38.05 and is all in</font>,Button folds
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Old 08-16-2007, 09:38 AM
franknagaijr franknagaijr is offline
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Default Re: Nut flush and nut low draws facing all-in - easy call?

Yes, it's a no brainer. Money goes in.

Edit: There are 12 cards to give you the high nuts, and 20 cards to give you the low nuts. Do you like those odds? Even in a deep stack situation this shouldn't require much though. Especially nice is that lovely 6 on the side, which means that if your opponent also pops a wheelie, he still gets to visit quarter-town.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: Nut flush and nut low draws facing all-in - easy call?

DREAM SITUATION!!!

The only thing that would make it better was if the 6 was a 5 and you would be totally uncounterfeitable...

This would be a situation unless SB and I were playing 200+ BB deep I would look to get the money all in...Even if the effective stacks were that big I'd probably look to get it all in here anyway...

And DEFINITELY no matter how deep we were I'd look to get it in with AQ35, A high hearts...

Keep posting stuff you are having trouble with...That's how I learned to play this game...We've all been in that learning phase...And I would suggest using twodimes.net to figure out equity ranges in hands that you played...This tool was SO valuable to me when I first started playing...
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush and nut low draws facing all-in - easy call?

easy call. Only thing to be scared of is a set with A3 also, and I don't see how you could ever put your opponent on that specific hand. Sure other hands like A359 would also be cause for concern for you, but your opponent's range is so much bigger than these hands here.
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Old 08-16-2007, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush and nut low draws facing all-in - easy call?

Also you're a slight underdog against AA with the nut low draw
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush and nut low draws facing all-in - easy call?

Thanks for all the comments.
I did call.
He had a set of 9s - I hit the flush and the wheel.
He was dead to the low and any low card would (and did) give me that part.
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush and nut low draws facing all-in - easy call?

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Thanks for all the comments.
I did call.
He had a set of 9s - I hit the flush and the wheel.
He was dead to the low and any low card would (and did) give me that part.

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You'll find that semi-bluffing is a huge component of this game (PLO8). Many times you'll have nothing on the flop, but your draws make you the favorite. Other times you'll have the invulnerable nuts in one direction and successfully push somebody off of a hand that was good for the other half, but not close enough to the nuts to give them the confidence for a crying call.

and Stay out of quartertown, and the low-rent district, sixthville!
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Old 08-16-2007, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush and nut low draws facing all-in - easy call?

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Also you're a slight underdog against AA with the nut low draw

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Can't see this hand being part of the equation unless your opponent is a real tight nit, I would expect a raise from AA3x...
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: Nut flush and nut low draws facing all-in - easy call?

Wasn't talking about the specific hand, just in general. And yes I agree that nearly everyone would raise with AA + a wheel card.
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