Poorly played AKo?

Malifous · #1 09-30-2007, 06:56 AM

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 (poster) checks, UTG+2 calls, 4 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, Button calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.20 BB

Villain is 53/11 and has been capping with bottom pair and then calling till the river, not very good id say. I feel like i shouldve just called down after the flop. Felt like he would cap with flushdraw too.

Fantam · #2 09-30-2007, 07:36 AM

In this hand villain is always betting instead of calling to the river after the flop.

Anyway, your 3-bet on the flop looks fine. After villain capped the flop, I would probably have called down.

I would not have check raised villain on the river. Although you had overtaken AT, which villain may have raised with pf, you were still behind TT & 55, which were also possible hands for him to have played this way.

If you had actually seen villain cap with a flush draw on the flop in a previous hand, then I may have led the turn and called down to a raise.

Malifous · #3 09-30-2007, 07:44 AM

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In this hand villain is always betting instead of calling to the river after the flop.

Anyway, your 3-bet on the flop looks fine. After villain capped the flop, I would probably have called down.

I would not have check raised villain on the river. Although you had overtaken AT, which villain may have raised with pf, you were still behind TT & 55, which were also possible hands for him to have played this way.

If you had actually seen villain cap with a flush draw on the flop in a previous hand, then I may have led the turn and called down to a raise.

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I tried to represent the jack wich was a mistake since i as a villain would definately call it down.

OziBattler · #4 09-30-2007, 07:50 AM

Malifous, honestly I wouldnt bother trying to 'represent' against this villian. just value bet value bet value bet. I too dont like the river CR. I think i prefer betting right into him on the turn as well. You get better control over how many bets go in on each street that way (even maniacs can check behind sometimes). The river CR plan isnt something I like cos you get pwned when beat and you have to call a 3 bet against a maniac and you also risk him checking it through if he is FOS.

Malifous · #5 09-30-2007, 08:27 AM

Hmm, yeah makes sense. C/r isnt doing any good since i lose the potcontrol. I lost the pot he had TT.

Bulletproof Monk · #6 09-30-2007, 08:58 AM

i may cap the river but its very close. the rest is fine. suggesting we dont c/r this river is completely results oriented thinking and you would have gotten different responses if you had cut the action before vil 3bet

guys - that river pulls us ahead of A5 and AT, buttons raise preflop but not cap forces us to discount AA, A5 and 55, however AT and TT is very likely

combination analysis gives us 6 combos of AT and 6 of A5, with 3 combos of TT

after discounting we are probably left with something like:

4.5 combos we lose to (3 TT, 1 AJ, .5 55), and
10 combos we are beating (6 AT, 3 A5, 1 AQ/other random hands)

making a river c/r clearly correct.

after he 3bets the c/r we obviously discount the crap out of A5 and AQ, as well as AT. however 2:1 rule no longer holds due to 4 bet cap, meaning we only need 51% equity at this point.... the question is whether the discount overrides the drop in equity required.

actually after analysis i think a river cap is overdoing it, and this hand is played fine

Smurph64 · #7 09-30-2007, 04:48 PM

river raise does nothing for you here. if there was value in the raise then you should have done it on the turn.

milesdyson · #8 09-30-2007, 06:25 PM

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river raise does nothing for you here. if there was value in the raise then you should have done it on the turn.

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i don't know if you misread the board but hero now beats AT and A5. however i also believe hero should not checkraise here simply because villain will check behind these hands some % of the time against the obvious strong ace.

Smurph64 · #9 09-30-2007, 09:18 PM

KQ Spades in the mix here ever?

Buzz-cp · #10 09-30-2007, 09:57 PM

That is but one combo.