How should i play qq in this difficult spot???

[Frank Catalani]

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Who said I am going broke? I think we have the best hand. A 23/17/5 is certainly capable of 3 betting light on the button.

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Exactly, so why are you smooth calling OOP and check calling flop and turn?

[fullcontact]

nl 100 is a weak limit.
not many good players...

a reraise means a lot aa/ kk / qq / ak
I didn't know how good my hand was.

If i 4-bet i have to call a shove...
But without reads i don't want to shove pfr with qq..

[PartysOver]

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nl 100 is a weak limit.
not many good players...

a reraise means a lot aa/ kk / qq / ak

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this is what a find a lot too. i think you played it ok

[Hince]

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Who said I am going broke? I think we have the best hand. A 23/17/5 is certainly capable of 3 betting light on the button.

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Exactly, so why are you smooth calling OOP and check calling flop and turn?

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I'm not... I'm 4 betting.

[Frank Catalani]

Are you seeking approval of your fold on the river?

[Hince]

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nl 100 is a weak limit.
not many good players...

a reraise means a lot aa/ kk / qq / ak
I didn't know how good my hand was.

If i 4-bet i have to call a shove...
But without reads i don't want to shove pfr with qq..

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His stats don't suggest that he is weak...

[PartysOver]

from 22/17 type people who 3b at 50/1, i have only seen a few doing it with a wider range than JJ+

this is just what i have been seeing. ymmv... now i do have notes on a few people who are 3-betting light on the button but this is <15% of 22/17 types

for me, i'd like some kind of read before i shove it in here

[Dan Bitel]

I HATE 4-betting QQ preflop, and I hate even more the amount of people that suggest it with a weak arguement like "he's 3betting light".

You really think 4betting QQ is the best way to extract? wtf do you think that?

OP, I would perhaps fold turn here, given you didn't, river is obv an easy fold

[n1nj4.br]

U only beat a bluff on river, the rest is up to u.

[Beanos]

22/17 3-bet ip with a huge range i find, doesn't mean that he plays back vs 4-bets with a big a range. I'd call pre, i'd fold turn 50/50, def fold river