Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-18-2007, 08:51 PM
TDouble TDouble is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: working for the man = teh suck
Posts: 1,022
Default Standard c/b here in r/r pots? 1/2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($191.65)
Button ($243)
SB ($314.90)
Hero ($243)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $7</font>, SB calls $6, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $28</font>, Button calls $21, SB folds.

Flop: ($63) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero bet/folds flop?

Villain is 28/19 through 159. He auto-raises if folded to in MP/LP/CO/Button. I felt like this was a good spot to squeeze as SB was on the weak/passive side.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($217.05)
MP ($230.55)
CO ($242.70)
Button ($386.45)
SB ($60.25)
Hero ($200)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, UTG calls $22, Button calls $22.

Flop: ($91) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero bet/folds?

UTG is on the tighter side, 23/17 and button is a fish 30/16. UTG's range for calling the r/r has to be fairly tight but button calls w/ dam near any two after UTG calls.
I can't see him not 3-balling me PF w/ AA or KK here so is it worth firing the flop, esp w/ the gutter ball?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-18-2007, 08:53 PM
mertzo mertzo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,387
Default Re: Standard c/b here in r/r pots? 1/2

Man i hate theese spots, i hope this thread gets alot of discussion so i can learn some. As of now both hands feels like a flip a coin for me. I hate betting but i hate checking because i feel so exploitable
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-18-2007, 08:59 PM
Austiger Austiger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 4,504
Default Re: Standard c/b here in r/r pots? 1/2

If he auto-raises every hand, how is he only 19% PFR? Bet/folding that flop is v. bad against a lot of people. I would bet/call. You don't have a lot of room to worry about being out-kicked with so much in the pot.

I'd bet hand 2 as well
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-19-2007, 12:32 AM
TDouble TDouble is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: working for the man = teh suck
Posts: 1,022
Default Re: Standard c/b here in r/r pots? 1/2

[ QUOTE ]
If he auto-raises every hand, how is he only 19% PFR? Bet/folding that flop is v. bad against a lot of people. I would bet/call. You don't have a lot of room to worry about being out-kicked with so much in the pot.

I'd bet hand 2 as well

[/ QUOTE ]

It's only through 159 hands and this is just this session that he's been this active
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-19-2007, 10:29 AM
TDouble TDouble is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: working for the man = teh suck
Posts: 1,022
Default Re: Standard c/b here in r/r pots? 1/2

Important history regarding villain in hand 1 that I didn't mention in OP.

I open AKo on the button 4 handed, SB calls, villain in BB squeezes to $33, I make it $70 total intending to call a push and villain insta-mucks.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-19-2007, 10:35 AM
dersl dersl is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 538
Default Re: Standard c/b here in r/r pots? 1/2

[ QUOTE ]

It's only through 159 hands and this is just this session that he's been this active

[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe he got good hands the last times?

I'd fold preflop and wait for better cards. If he really insta-opens OTB you probably will have the opportunity again.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-19-2007, 01:18 PM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: one time
Posts: 5,779
Default Re: Standard c/b here in r/r pots? 1/2

in hand 1 id either bet/call or check the flop
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-19-2007, 02:59 PM
orange orange is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: University of NE Lincoln/Omaha
Posts: 19,438
Default Re: Standard c/b here in r/r pots? 1/2

[ QUOTE ]
in hand 1 id either bet/call or check the flop

[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-19-2007, 03:00 PM
orange orange is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: University of NE Lincoln/Omaha
Posts: 19,438
Default Re: Standard c/b here in r/r pots? 1/2

to add: b/f-ing TP in rr-ed pots is just spewing money. i wouldnt rr pf with K8s if i was comfortable with bet/calling or checking flops/evaluating.

hand 2: i usually b/c as well lol.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-19-2007, 03:16 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bork! Bork! Bork!
Posts: 11,164
Default Re: Standard c/b here in r/r pots? 1/2

Hand 1: bet/call, we're behind here pretty much never. Another line thats quite hot is c/r AI. Hope he cbets his PP, then puts you on a draw and also calls the AI with it.

Hand 2: check and see what happens...3bet, 3way pot usually play pretty straight up
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.