One hand - two questions

Laetus · #1 11-11-2007, 10:57 AM

1 ) Do you c-bet this flop? What is your plan on turn if you opt to check flop?

2 ) Is my river call spewy?

Reads:
SB 21/17/3.5
BB 21/8/1.3 after 50 hands and I have seen him CC w/ AKo pre , co vs button and he called c-bet on Q-high flop (and the hand was checked on turn and river)
I myself is playing TAG.

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$5
4 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $20, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($60, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $44, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($148, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($148, 2 players)
BB bets $75, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $298

Laetus · #2 11-11-2007, 11:43 AM

Both villains have a full buy-in and I cover both.

wazz · #3 11-11-2007, 12:03 PM

River call is not spewy at all. I sometimes c-bet this flop but I mostly check behind and try to catch good. If I do check behind I will almost always bet the turn for value.

Praetor · #4 11-11-2007, 12:09 PM

hand is fine as played

Joey2Cards · #5 11-11-2007, 01:16 PM

I just wrote a REALLY long review of this hand and somehow managed to lose it!

My outcome was that the call was only correct if you believed villain would be on a complete bluff one third of the time. Definitely didn't have a pair of kings. My guess would be 78h.

Great hand!!!

Nick Royale · #6 11-11-2007, 01:19 PM

I'd play it the same.

Joey2Cards · #7 11-11-2007, 01:20 PM

Also, I don't c-bet a multiway pot. My plan on the turn would be to see if my opponents bet. If they did, I would fold. If they did not, I would bet.

danjohncochane · #8 11-11-2007, 01:40 PM

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Also, I don't c-bet a multiway pot. My plan on the turn would be to see if my opponents bet. If they did, I would fold. If they did not, I would bet.

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Lol that is terrible advice.

Joey2Cards · #9 11-11-2007, 02:29 PM

I don't know why I posted that, I agree with you. If I'm not willing to represent the king on the flop then I can't rightfully bet on the turn. By checking the hand, I'm giving up on the pot and so I should not bet unless my hand improves. My bad.

However, in future, please explain yourself a little better. Be CONSTRUCTIVE, my friend! We're here to learn. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Mark1808 · #10 11-11-2007, 02:36 PM

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I don't know why I posted that, I agree with you. If I'm not willing to represent the king on the flop then I can't rightfully bet on the turn. By checking the hand, I'm giving up on the pot and so I should not bet unless my hand improves. My bad.

However, in future, please explain yourself a little better. Be CONSTRUCTIVE, my friend! We're here to learn. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Good post, keep em coming. Since villan will call flop OP with a variety of hands and a draw on board I would 2nd barrel the turn. I see lots of players call the flop with a very wide range that they will give up on turn to a 2nd bet. By betting the turn you can get better hands to fold that would bet or call the river if you check the turn.