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Old 10-22-2007, 12:16 PM
akak akak is offline
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Default TP2K against strange read

Villain is 64/14/.56 after 48 hands. In one of the first few hands he played at the table, he open limped in the CO, I raised 5x, BB called, then villain went allin pf and ended up showing down J9o. This would seem to imply a maniac, but his stats and the rest of his play implied calling station. On to the hand...


Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.02 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($1.29)
Hero ($1.98)
BB ($1)
UTG ($.98)
MP ($3.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.02, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.08</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.06.

Flop: ($0.18) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.09</font>, Button calls $0.09.

Turn: ($0.36) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.2</font>, Button calls $0.20.

River: ($0.76) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $0.92 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $0.62.

Final Pot: $2.60

Just read the chapter in PNL about pot control so I was trying to focus on this. Hence the 1/2x flop bet on the uncoordinated board.

I would have checked behind on turn if I had position, but since I was oop and he seemed to be a calling station I bet.

Value bet river since I was oop and didn't want to lose value or have to fold to an all-in. I pretty much had to call there right?

Thoughts would be much appreciated.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: TP2K against strange read

Seems fine i think, what is your strange read though?
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: TP2K against strange read

What's the strange read? Also, your line looks fine but I'd probably bet a little more on the flop and turn to extract from a weaker ace. On the river you have to call since you're getting good odds.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: TP2K against strange read

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Seems fine i think, what is your strange read though?

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sorry guys, I edited it to include my comments a minute after I posted. you were too damn quick.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: TP2K against strange read

Standard, I also like the turn bet OOP vs this villian.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: TP2K against strange read

- I raise to $0.10 or $0.12 PF against this guy OOP.
- Bet more on the flop, like $0.15.
- As played, bet more on the turn.
- As played, bet more on the river. Call a shove.

I'm not to worried about pot control against a calling station like this. I'm trying to get it in here, you'll see worse aces a TON.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: TP2K against strange read

Looks good imo, although I'd prefer a $0.10 raise pf, and about 3/4 of the pot on the flop. Betting half the pot offers villian excellent odds to call.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: TP2K against strange read

Of course he turned of Q6o. Yah, so shoulda been more concerned with betting for (more) value rather than pot control here since I was playing against a calling station.

Lesson learned. Thanks guys.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: TP2K against strange read

just coz you've read about pot control doesn't mean you should use it here, the guy hasn't got a full stack, if i flop that with AQo then i'm looking to get his whole stack.

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Of course he turned of Q6o. Yah, so shoulda been more concerned with betting for (more) value rather than pot control here since I was playing against a calling station.

Lesson learned. Thanks guys.

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mmhmm
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