Massive Turnover in Caesars Palace Staff?

[LasVegasMichael]

Wow. Just wow. NH, sir. Well played.

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TJ was hired by Vito just before he (Vito) got kicked out the door and TJ stayed on as a board ops/chip runner after Jim got put into place.

Dunno the circumstances of how TJ got moved up to floor, but I do know a person or two who knew TJ from back East - he used to play in the city and other spots around there and supposedly did a gig at Borgata for awhile.

As far as the lineup thing goes, I know how the lineups were run there, and I know that when Dwight was running the lineup he would veer the crappy dealers away from the "big games" that came in as well, like around All-Star Weekend.

And the the way the lineups were and likely are still put up were crappy as hell from what I've been told. You may have had 4 live games on the night you mentioned, raisebot, but I know there were likely tourney tables littered all over the lineup as well.

The Jason/Rich thing blows my mind.

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TJ was hired by Vito just before he (Vito) got kicked out the door and TJ stayed on as a board ops/chip runner after Jim got put into place.

Dunno the circumstances of how TJ got moved up to floor, but I do know a person or two who knew TJ from back East - he used to play in the city and other spots around there and supposedly did a gig at Borgata for awhile.

As far as the lineup thing goes, I know how the lineups were run there, and I know that when Dwight was running the lineup he would veer the crappy dealers away from the "big games" that came in as well, like around All-Star Weekend.

And the the way the lineups were and likely are still put up were crappy as hell from what I've been told. You may have had 4 live games on the night you mentioned, raisebot, but I know there were likely tourney tables littered all over the lineup as well.

The Jason/Rich thing blows my mind.

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I agree that I "heard" TJ was a great chiprunner and did indeed work hard when he had that position, so I won't dispute that at all.

Dwight was just a spiteful f*ck. For instance, there could be strings of only two or threeballs, and if you wanted to EO, if he didn't like you, he'd make you stay just to piss you off. And on the flip side, when extremely busy (such as during the WSOP circuit event, when there were 7-10 ball strings, he'd FORCE out the extra board dealers, whether they wanted to stay or leave. If he didn't like you, he'd always do the exact opposite of what you'd prefer, regardless of whether it would help the room, hurt the room, make you happy, or piss you off.

And on that second night of the Miami Heat game, the timeframe I was talking about was after midnight. There were NOT a ton of tourney tables going on at that time. Remember, Caesars only started doing the 5 daily tourneys only recently (after the WSOP). During the WSOP is the only time the 11PM tourney gets pretty big (~80+ players or so at that time). Before and after the WSOP, the WSOP only averages about 30-40 players or so during the week, and this was before they started with 4k in chips, as they do now. The room was NOT busy that 2nd night of the Miami Heat game- I believe it was on a Tuesday since it was one of the bigger Pure Nightclub nights. There were dealers hitting the same shorthanded 1/3 NL games 3 or 4 times, without ever breaking a table all night. From midnight on, I believe there were 2 1/3 games, a single 2/5, and maybe a single limit (3/6 or 4/8) game. The late night tourney action was DEAD, maybe a single table or 2 going. The crazy thing though was they were short on dealers that night, so the strings were fairly long, there was no reason at all that ANYONE should have been denied dealing the 100/200/400 NL game.

For anyone that knows how the Caesars LV strings are, it's obvious they are set up so there can be favorites so certain dealers will get hooked up, and others will get screwed. The dealers rotation isn't anything "standard" like pushing into the next numerical table. The pushes are crap like deal table 1 (1/3 NL)-8 (3/6 FL)-35 (tourney)-3 (3/6 FL) Break, while someone else getting hooked up will have a string like table 21 (2/5 NL), 20 (5/10 NL), 6 (1/3 NL), 22 (2/5 NL), Break, etc

Favorites are definitely seen in the room. And if someone can't deal well, then why are they working there? This is Caesars Palace, not the Plaza. Sub-par dealers shouldn't be working there at all.


And don't get me started on their ratio of extra-board to FT dealers. I wouldn't be too surprised if they are violating labor laws as well.

[Dynasty]

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Maybe if Jason & Rich weren't scamming the "2nd chance drawings", they'd still be there.

Maybe if TJ wasn't taking bribes and a $500 juice payment juice to keep his mouth shut, maybe he'd still be there as well.


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FWIW, I heard there were employees stealing from the tournaments. I suspect this is what was meant when I was told that.

I didn't have the details or confidence to post it without some other source.

[DayTripping]

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I'm a local Vegas player, Caesars USED to be my home room. No more. Myself and several others booked. Until we hear that the rake goes back, neither do we.
Two of the Station Casino's tried raising the rake, and they lost 3/4 of the local play. A few months later they sent out letters to players offering comps for them to come back and apologizing for the experimental raising of the rake. I never went back. Live and learn. Hopefully the other rooms (not Harrahs or Stations) are watching and learning from the others mistakes.

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The experiment failed at Station casinos because they have a much higher concentration of locals than do Harrah's properties. A $5 rake at Red Rock is going to piss off the nitty local living in Summerlin a hell of a lot more than a clueless tourist from Nebraska playing at Paris.

Just to make it clear though, I am in no way in favor of the $5 rake. I find it disgusting.

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Maybe if Jason & Rich weren't scamming the "2nd chance drawings", they'd still be there.

Maybe if TJ wasn't taking bribes and a $500 juice payment juice to keep his mouth shut, maybe he'd still be there as well.


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FWIW, I heard there were employees stealing from the tournaments. I suspect this is what was meant when I was told that.

I didn't have the details or confidence to post it without some other source.

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I'll just say that stealing from the tournament toke pool is a long-standing tradition in the short 2-years the new Caesars room has been opened and a focal point of some of the departures of past suits.

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And on that second night of the Miami Heat game, the timeframe I was talking about was after midnight. There were NOT a ton of tourney tables going on at that time.


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So was this the All-Star Weekend Heat game, or the one that ran during WSOP-time when the Chris Webber Charity Event was in town?

I can't believe the room would be that dead, even after midnight, during the WSOP, unless it was well into the night (4amish-on), even then.

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And don't get me started on their ratio of extra-board to FT dealers. I wouldn't be too surprised if they are violating labor laws as well.

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Well, another thing I heard is that dealers are getting written up for minor BS left and right, especially full-time dealers.

Person(s) I talked to said they wouldn't be surprised that Jim Padulla has taken the cost-cutting as far as trying to force full-time dealers out, one way or another, so they wouldn't have to pay out as much in benefits.

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And on that second night of the Miami Heat game, the timeframe I was talking about was after midnight. There were NOT a ton of tourney tables going on at that time.


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So was this the All-Star Weekend Heat game, or the one that ran during WSOP-time when the Chris Webber Charity Event was in town?

I can't believe the room would be that dead, even after midnight, during the WSOP, unless it was well into the night (4amish-on), even then.

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You're right, it was the week following the Chris Webber Charity event. The first night they had the game was a Monday night/Tues morn, and it continued the next night, finally breaking about 4:30am Wed morning. Keep in mind this was over a week and a half since the final table of the WSOP Main Event. And the more I think about it, there were exactly 2 tables going for the 11pm tourney, since both tourney tables were at the end of seperate strings, and TJ told both tourney dealers to go on break and he'll reassign spots after their breaks- leaving both dealers wondering who would get lucky enough to get on the 1 "good string" with the 100/200/400 NL game. And neither did. They both went on break, came back, and got reassigned to the middle of the strings they were previously on. Which benefitted TJ in another way- hopefully 1 of the tourney tables would have broken while those 2 dealers were on break, and when they get back from break, 1 of them would get sent home.
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And don't get me started on their ratio of extra-board to FT dealers. I wouldn't be too surprised if they are violating labor laws as well.

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Well, another thing I heard is that dealers are getting written up for minor BS left and right, especially full-time dealers.

Person(s) I talked to said they wouldn't be surprised that Jim Padulla has taken the cost-cutting as far as trying to force full-time dealers out, one way or another, so they wouldn't have to pay out as much in benefits.

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But for every full timer that gets let go, they're not rehiring extra boards to fill their spots. Jim Pedulla's little "game" is as follows-
Floorpeople lose their jobs one way or another.
Then there's a sign-up sheet for recruiting dealers looking to be trained/hired as dual-rate.
If you have the balls to try and be a dual rate, with The Fuhrer as one of your immediate bosses, good luck.
Do some time as dual rate without pissing Jim off (next to impossible), then say you dont want to dual rate anymore, you just want to deal again. You'll likely get full-time dealing now. But now Pedulla hates your f*cking guts and you're now on his shitlist. F*ck up once, and you're out a job.

He feels extra board is more valuable than full timers. No benefits, no set schedules, you have to do BS jobs such as board op and chiprunning (and POOL the little tips you get doing that), keep your minimum wage, and the employee has no repercussions whatsoever.

[Cactus Jack]

So this might be what's inspiring the dealers to go unionizing?

("Look for the union label...") I love that song, and SNL in the old days did a super takeoff with the Marijuana Growers of America.

Shoving out full-timers and replacing them with part-timers who don't get benefits is killing the working class of this country, as well as the shopping experience.

CJ

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So this might be what's inspiring the dealers to go unionizing?

("Look for the union label...") I love that song, and SNL in the old days did a super takeoff with the Marijuana Growers of America.

Shoving out full-timers and replacing them with part-timers who don't get benefits is killing the working class of this country, as well as the shopping experience.

CJ

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Sorry if it's inappropriate to post links here, but check out www.caesarspalacedealers.com
The site kinda makes your eyes bleed, but there's a ridiculous amount of stories from dealers that have been getting shafted for years, and are trying to get union representation.