3/19 Poker Superstars III - Page 2

MikeGuz · #11 03-20-2006, 06:31 AM

I don't get on my sat system, is this a buy in event or sponsered. If no buy in you are likely to see very wierd play. The kind of play you see when a deal is struck for the money at the end of a tournament.

El Yortle · #12 03-20-2006, 07:17 AM

Thanks.

private joker · #13 03-20-2006, 08:18 AM

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There might have been 2 hands where we saw any post flop play.

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No. There was one hand where there was a flop. Jeff called Todd's preflop raise, and then pushed the flop (KQ vs A8 on a 822 flop). Todd called, and once again we had two all-in players staring at the board with their cards face up.

That was the only hand where a single decision was made post-flop. Even in HU play with Barry and Jeff, all the money went in preflop every time.

This was the worst television poker I can remember. What makes it so bad is that the players at that table were so fantastic. Chris Ferguson, Todd Brunson, Barry Greenstein... who wouldn't want to watch these masters at work? Deep-stacked, feeling each other out, making moves, etc. That would have been great. To see them all sitting together flipping coins for an hour was painful.

Nonononono · #14 03-20-2006, 10:50 AM

I was also in pain watching the all-in fest, but I guess they're giving the public what it wants.

Would the following format reward skilled play?

Play x number of hands, eliminate the player with the least amount of chips. Repeat until only one player remains.

I realize the choice of blind levels would still affect the amount of luck involved, but this format seems much more appropriate for fixed-length TV telecasts. The typical format will often spoil the ending for viewers. If a player has a 5-to-1 chip advantage heads up, and it's 58 minutes into the hour, it's pretty clear who's going to win.

thedarknight · #15 03-20-2006, 03:06 PM

is it possible to get this somewhere if you don't have FSN..like somewhere on the internet.....

DoubleTwentyOne · #16 03-20-2006, 03:28 PM

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I had higher hopes for III than II, but after watching tonight's episode, those hopes are dashed. Ivey, Ferguson, Greenstein, Brunson, Shulman, and Elezra, and all we get is all-in and more all-ins. Ferguson goes all in with 5-5 very early. There might have been 2 hands where we saw any post flop play.

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With 250,000 in starting chips and the first level of blinds at 10,000/20,000, this event was clearly structured to be a Pre-Flop tournament, since you only get 12.5 BBs to start. I'm pretty sure the players all knew this before they signed up. But then again, how is this any different than a late level WPT final table with $1 billion/$2 billion blinds? At least with this tourney we get to see the big names instead of some 18 year old kids.
Plus think about how this will teach the future donkeynoobs to play? Once they see this all-in all-in crap they'll be that much more inclined to insta-shove-in in a live game, and that can only be +EV for the rest of us.

amplify · #17 03-20-2006, 09:46 PM

There was a noticable lack of Jennifer Tilly's enormous boobs in this episode. Other than that, Barry Greenstien was creepier than ever, Todd Brunson needs a got-damn haircut, Jeff Schulman shouldn't even be there, and this tournament has almost the worst possible structure.

Steve00007 · #18 03-21-2006, 02:46 AM

The biggest reason I watched was to see Ferguson and Ivey play. Them getting knocked out so quickly ruined the episode. Oh well. It's not likely I would have seen them during postflop play anyway.

Borgland · #19 03-21-2006, 02:50 AM

Why did they change the sturcture from last year's?

Steve00007 · #20 03-21-2006, 02:53 AM

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There might have been 2 hands where we saw any post flop play.

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No. There was one hand where there was a flop. Jeff called Todd's preflop raise, and then pushed the flop (KQ vs A8 on a 822 flop). Todd called, and once again we had two all-in players staring at the board with their cards face up.

That was the only hand where a single decision was made post-flop. Even in HU play with Barry and Jeff, all the money went in preflop every time.

This was the worst television poker I can remember. What makes it so bad is that the players at that table were so fantastic. Chris Ferguson, Todd Brunson, Barry Greenstein... who wouldn't want to watch these masters at work? Deep-stacked, feeling each other out, making moves, etc. That would have been great. To see them all sitting together flipping coins for an hour was painful.

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For some reason I feel like there was more than one hand with postflop play. Then again, the episode was so boring that I'm having trouble remembering much of anything. I do remember hand after hand having all-in preflop action though, so you're probably right.

I agree. It would have been fascinating to watch them play poker. It's just too bad there wasn't any poker.