Top pair turn fold heads up

[cartman]

Villain is 43/8/.7 and usually passive but capable of semi-bluff raising both the flop and the turn heads up.


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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB


What do you think?

Do you fold to a turn or a river bet if a spade doesn't hit and he keeps firing?

Thanks,
Cartman

[JBB]

I would've bet the flop and taken it from there.

[Dane S]

I'm calling down.. Josh's 4th law: people spaz when you c/r them in this situation.

[JBB]

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I'm calling down.. Josh's 4th law: people spaz when you c/r them in this situation.

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Link? Laws 1-3?

[Dane S]

Oops, it's actually part 3. The first two laws are mysteries to me.

Link

[Surf]

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I'm calling down.. Josh's 4th law: people spaz when you c/r them in this situation.

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Link? Laws 1-3?

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I believe the first one is "when a small/mid-stakes opponent bets when an Ace or similarly scary card comes down, he is either bluffing or so strong that he doesn't care about the Ace."

Or something to that effect.

Surf

[Spy Dog]

My plan in this type of situation:

I check-call this flop. And then I check-call the turn. And then I bet the river if the board hasn't gotten too scary.

Flop is more likely to have missed villian than hit him. Therefore, I play my hand as if he has missed and try to extract maximum value from a missed hand. Check-calling the flop/turn gains good value from his bluffs. Betting the river gets value from hands that might have caught a piece along the way (or hit on the flop). Sometimes he will check behind on the turn, but that's OK because he likely has squat and I don't mind giving him a free chance to pair up on the river.

I only do this when I flop top or 2nd pair, and my pair is Jacks/Queens/Kings/Aces.

[flawless_victory]

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I'm calling down.. Josh's 4th law: people spaz when you c/r them in this situation.

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this is a terrible fold... cap the flop or poss CR the turn even after the spade comes... ppl spazz out in this spot all the time cause they are idiots... this is an awful fold if u had middle pair.

[Schizo]

I hate folding this.

[Wynton]

How about leading the turn?