4 bet shove aq against 30/20/7 - Page 2

Unknown Soldier · #11 11-16-2007, 09:46 AM

i realise that, but we're not talking about a 19/14 nit here, the guy is 30/20

BombayBadboy · #12 11-16-2007, 09:53 AM

All I see is that he is pretty aggro.

Unknown Soldier · #13 11-16-2007, 09:56 AM

look closer [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

JFsports · #14 11-16-2007, 10:00 AM

I agree with Unknown Soldier

BombayBadboy · #15 11-16-2007, 10:06 AM

[censored] me, ok I agree that a shove against this guy is ok.

Unknown Soldier · #16 11-16-2007, 10:07 AM

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

sixhigh · #17 11-16-2007, 12:04 PM

I'd make a normal 4bet here, but 4betting at all is extremely standard in this spot against this guy.

HoldEmNewby · #18 11-16-2007, 01:16 PM

very villain dependant, but in this case it is warranted. nh.

on a tangent - how strong a post flop read would you need on this villain to call preflop; knowing you're going to be pushing a lot of flops even if the A or Q doesn't come through?

obviously we would have to be expecting him to cbet often.

traz · #19 11-16-2007, 01:20 PM

this is pretty standard for me against this type of opponent, especially if I've seen him squeeze.

I hate being squeezed and it's a matter of principle

scallop · #20 11-16-2007, 01:22 PM

Hmmm - now this is just a thought.

This guy's calling range in this spot isnt gonna be HUGE. I mean it will be big, but generaly his stats reflect him as the agressor.

If we accept that we are ahead of his 3-betting range... and lets say he shoves 90% of flops he sees (because he is allowed to be the agressor..)

Could we call, and call any flop ????

I realise this would mean some spew-city moments but...?

(Also, I ddoubt he does play the flop like that 90% of the time, but lets say he does?)