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Old 10-28-2007, 01:00 PM
bingrich bingrich is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - set but that line is too strong...

We are getting odds to call against a flush with a little left afterward. Our equity on the turn against a flush is closer to 20% I think. 10 outs x 2= 20
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - set but that line is too strong...

I can't believe how much concern there is in this thread about a hand like this. Your job on this board with your hand versus this type of villain (and those effective stack sizes) is to get the money in as soon as possible, no matter what line villain takes. Be happy to do so on the turn. It is silly to rule out pair+draw, 2 pair, whatever type hands from our opponent's range -- his line *looks* like he's milking for pure value, but he may be going for value with worse than a flopped flush, or just making disconnected moves -- pot odds/remaining stacks on the turn (as well as the more general principles mentioned above) mean that stacking off there is pretty easy.
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: 25NL - set but that line is too strong...

Yeah, you're right my mistake. Stove sais 22,7%.
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:13 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - set but that line is too strong...

Your only other option is check/call lead river.

It'd be weird to take that line tho. But it is your other option.
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Old 10-28-2007, 01:25 PM
bingrich bingrich is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - set but that line is too strong...

I think Khumalo is right. That was my first reaction to the hand. Set + fish= ARRR INNN.

The thing is we all know this was a flush since it's posted here and OP calls it a cooler. We all want to make the right read and villain's line is very strong. But when we take into account villain is a fish and we just about have odds even if behind, this decision isn't that hard.
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