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Old 10-09-2007, 11:43 AM
rpr rpr is offline
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Default Re: Hiring a money manager

It seems that this money manager in Tampa is one of the best, but I am not proficient in this area. I'm big on due diligence so thoroughly check this out before you proceed.

I believe his 12-year average as of 2004 was 36% and in 2005 he was up 105%. He manages a lot of money (B). And he used to speak at the Economic Council of the White House. I think his minimum is 100K. Very smart quant, one day I was with him he made 1M in his personal account. Goldman Sachs offered to buy his company but he declined.

Any financial people have comments on this?

http://www.carnegieasset.com/hscm.php

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I have been tracking the performance of 8,000 money managers and 7,000 hedge fund managers for almost 30 years. Year-after-year, over 95 percent of all money managers either lose money or they consistently underperform the market.


[The Money Manager's] ability to short the weakest markets, while simultaneously going long in the strongest markets produced a 105 percent gain in 2005, while the stock market (up only 5 percent) churned continuously up and down as the Federal Reserve raised interest rates.

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Old 10-10-2007, 12:00 AM
DonButtons DonButtons is offline
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jively,

Thanks for posting! finanical planner/ advisor does seem more what Im looking for currently. Though down the road a short while I can see the use for a money manager as well given your description if poker really picks up.

So far Im a pretty aggressive investor. But never was really explained risk tolerance. Looked over some of those threads you posted and wasnt aware of the swings associated with different roi #s. Might need some talking about this more in detail to find my ideal #. Though I think I might be able to be in the 15-25% camp given my tough mentality related to grinding a lot of hands in per month and having some good new sources of income helps out.

Thanks for all the info. about the subject, truely a great post.

Ill pm you the other stuff since I somewhat should keep it private.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:03 AM
DonButtons DonButtons is offline
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Default Re: Hiring a money manager

rpr, just saw your pm.

Those stats seem pretty sick. Though not sure how much this money manager handled in the beginning to get those returns, and seems since he got a lot more money recently it might get harder.

And I havnt really looked into a lot, but links like that always seem like a scam to me at first glance.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:51 AM
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Default Re: Hiring a money manager

You actually mean 'accredited investor', someone who matches this definition below. Such a person is assumed to be sophisticated enough to not need the umbrella of protections defined in the Investment_Company_Act_of_1940 and the Investment_Advisers_Act_of_1940.


Accredited:
http://www.sec.gov/answers/accred.htm

The Acts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investm...ny_Act_of_1940
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investm...rs_Act_of_1940
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