Apparently songs are worth $9250 each...Dumb Jury - Page 33

Nicholasp27 · #**321** 10-09-2007, 10:48 AM

yahoo! is strongly against DRM; won't partner with RIAA if DRM is used: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/good-business...ever-308616.php

Nicholasp27 · #**322** 10-10-2007, 08:22 AM

other bands are following suit and ditching the RIAA:

http://techdirt.com/articles/20071008/154529.shtml

CORed · #**323** 10-10-2007, 02:02 PM

The Grateful Dead (anybody remember them?) always allowed people to tape their concerts, and to give away or trade tapes. Their only restriction was that the tapes not be sold. Although they sold several albums, they were always, first and foremost, a concert band.

I'm not sure what's going to happen with IP law. I think there is value in IP, in that it helps to see that creative people get paid for the fruits of their labor, but I think the old model is probably unenforceable in the digital age. The old model used to work because there was a significant economic barrier to publication. Not just anybody could afford a printing press, or equipment to master and press records or CD's. Now anybody with a PC and an internet connection can distribute music, movies, pictures or written content. I think the old model of IP is going to prove untenable. I'm not sure what's going to replace it.

Currently, the people who made a lot of money on the old model, especially the RIAA are in full panic mode, but I think they are bailing out the Titanic with a teaspoon. Their businesses are about as viable as that of a buggy whip maker in 1915.

NasEscobar · #**324** 10-10-2007, 08:52 PM

Wow.
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According to someone on this thread, there were 600 million albums sold last year. That's, what, between 6 and 9 billion dollars?

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This helps my argument. Even though anyone can get free music right now with no reprecussions the sky isn't falling.
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You can keep repeating that music is free now, but it isn't.

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I don't get how you can say something like this. I've downloaded over a hundred free songs in the last 24 hours. Sure people still go out and buy albums, good for them and good for the artists/labels. That doesn't mean it's not incredibly easy to get free music.
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And again I ask, if music were not property, as you wish, would the overall quality of music INcrease, or DEcrease?

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It would probably stay relatively the same. Look at TwoPlusTwo and wikipedia.

NasEscobar · #**325** 10-10-2007, 08:56 PM

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Nas,

"0*0 is 0."

pretty sure both of those numbers on the left are wrong.

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They haven't brought any lawsuits against downloaders.

CallMeIshmael · #**326** 10-11-2007, 02:21 AM

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Nas,

"0*0 is 0."

pretty sure both of those numbers on the left are wrong.

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They haven't brought any lawsuits against downloaders.

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point conceded.

I keep wanting to lump uploaders in with the term downloaders, though I am aware you want to talk about just downloading.

No_Mercy · #**327** 10-11-2007, 04:06 AM

The whole thing reminds me of books, book stores and public libraries. Next thing you know, the book stores and authors will be suing everyone who borrows a book for free because that's cutting into sales and royalties.

Nicholasp27 · #**328** 10-11-2007, 10:17 AM

Madonna has joined in...she signed a deal with promoters Live Nation instead of a record company