quick checkup - AK blind battle vs probable 2p2er

[Hoopster81]

Full-ring TAG regulars are so much nittier in general - especially preflop. I've been playing some FR recently and the average TAG's range here is so heavily weighted with AK KK AA.

If he's 2+2 he's going to probably c/f AK if he misses and you can steal. And if he has KK,AA you dont get stacked unless you hit tptk. And you also get to snap off occassional air.

[KvGalen]

When i saw the hand i was like: just shove pre, but i like your reasoning for the coldcall and i think its fine

[snowbank]

re-raise pf

[Borned_Luckbox1]

re-re-re-re-reraise preflop.

[schwza]

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just to be clear, betting the flop in a spot like this was part of my preflop plan, so I'm asking about the preflop plan rather than the flop

the basic idea here is that calling his fourbet looks really scary and he should expect me to have a relatively big pocket pair that I'm going to jam on a safe flop, so on flops like this he has to just give up if he was on a bluff.

I forgot to mention this but he fourbet very quickly which I thought meant he didn't have a borderline type of hand like QQ or JJ, I figured either AA/KK or something he was getting frisky with (including AK I guess)

this leads to the next point which is that if he's on air and I flop a pair he might try to represent my hand because he doesn't think AK is in my range to flatcall here... so basically I'm hoping that I can get him to play his hand completely backwards (bluffing when I hit and giving up when I miss). And if he really has a big hand then I can get away on the flop for kind of cheap.

this is just something I've toyed around with a little bit against threebets since no one expects an Axx or Kxx flop to hit you when you've just called them... so you can get people to stack off light because it looks like you're just making a move

eh, I'm kinda rambling now

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i think this is a pretty good thought, although i'd 5bet shove pre. the stacks are deep enough that if he's getting a little out of line with a hand like 88 he might find a fold now.

[WizardAce]

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[rand]

i like and do it all the time (infact i think this is important to do)

but 5beting pre is obvi standard

[AAismyfriend]

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I like your thinking and like all streets

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Agreed, baluga does have a point though.

[BalugaWhale]

by the way, "its full ring" doesnt really matter when everyone folds to blind v blind. obviously the overall game dynamic is altered, but in this situation it shouldn't be much different than if it were 3-handed.

[soah]

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by the way, "its full ring" doesnt really matter when everyone folds to blind v blind. obviously the overall game dynamic is altered, but in this situation it shouldn't be much different than if it were 3-handed.

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this is true (which is what I said in my OP) but full ring does attract different types of players and not all of them are as experienced in blind attacking/defense situations... given the limited info I had on this guy it was hard for me to know how well he would adjust. The stronger FR TAGs play out these spots very aggressively but there are also a lot of them that don't fight back nearly enough.