how to convince potential players of a fundamental rule?

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I want to hear more examples of what they think are flexible rules. That can't be it, can it?

[Sir Folds A Lot]

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I want to hear more examples of what they think are flexible rules.

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Sometimes a flush beats a straight, sometimes it doesn't. It depends on what I have; that's pretty flexible.

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It'll mess up your game playing with these donks who will crack your aces one too many times with crap crap OS. You'll start pushing with mid pair, and it will transfer over to the "real" games.

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I don't follow. How can one game affect another? I play differently within the same session, and I definitely have different overall approaches for different games or for table compositions within in the same game.

Me, I want my opponents to make a whole lot of mistakes, and a tiny little raise is a huge mistake. I don't tolerate it at my games (mainly to protect others), but I don't have a problem with it at all if I'm in someone else's game. Especially not within a small group of regulars.

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Just tell 'em it's your house and house rules.

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If it were his house, I'd say yes, enforce that rule. But it's not, he's joining another group of people he just met, and for him to push this issue is highly -EV, up to the point of him not being able to play in that game and not making new friends if he's nitty enough about it.

[whisker]

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I don't agree with those who are saying that the op should appreciate the donkness of these players. It'll mess up your game playing with these donks who will crack your aces one too many times with crap crap OS.


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I disagree. I do not think it messes up my game, since I understand why their play is a mistake, and I do my best to capitalize on that mistake. I have gotten better at laying down pocket aces. Especially if I could not isolate PF. I make sure to almost always raise PF with hands I want to play. They may crack my aces, but they will pay to do so. In the end I win (and even congratulate them on cracking my aces)

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You'll start pushing with mid pair, and it will transfer over to the "real" games.


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Ummm. No I won't.

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Just tell 'em it's your house and house rules. If that isn't enough, tell 'em you want to play the right way. Print a few copies of Robert's Rules and give 'em to people to take home and read. As they, your group, play more and see more on TV, they will step their levels up. You may hear some gripes in the beginning, but later will appreciate the consistencies of following the rules.

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Well, its not my game. And I have found that in games with people like this, trying to force them to understand the "correct" way to play, only makes them annoyed and then they start wondering if all I care about it winning all their money. Well, at the table that is all I care about But I certainly don't act like it.

[Artsemis]

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It'll mess up your game playing with these donks who will crack your aces one too many times with crap crap OS. You'll start pushing with mid pair, and it will transfer over to the "real" games.

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We call this "tilt". Welcome to poker.


ps. You're wrong.