ballin' ass bluff raise vs. Jfish

[mike0292]

this has to work like 55% of the time, you really think he calls that often? Pretty sure if he posted this from his POV most would advocate fold, just because nobody ever bluffs here.

[Teph]

well this is pretty silly.

[kyro]

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this has to work like 55% of the time, you really think he calls that often? Pretty sure if he posted this from his POV most would advocate fold, just because nobody ever bluffs here.

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Well yeah, if you know he has KK it's probably fine, but you don't.

[Big_Jim]

ballllllllin' outta control!

[D104]

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KK is just about the worst hand you can have there, and with the Q and J coming he'd have to be crazy to be bluffing. i think the reason his bluff sucks is because you're going to have a pretty big hand too often. this time you didn't. doesn't mean you made a terrible fold, just like it doesn't mean he made a good bluff

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QFT

[d2themfi]

If ur JFish, why not c/c the river, to induce a bluff? I mean the way the mike played this, it looks like a flush draw.
Also why does calling a utg raise on the button with 56 suited suck?, Im thinkin thats pretty standard, no?

[ddubois]

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why not c/c the river, to induce a bluff

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[Josh.]

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why not c/c the river, to induce a bluff

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because it's usually jsut going to go check-check and JT or QJ or 99 no good. i don't think a draw is a big part of his range at all. i think most people just muck the turn with a draw unless it's a combo draw. i think it's a reasonably good spot for jfish to be bluffing, so i don't see why he can't bet KK for value.

[jfish]

because i thought he had 1 pair hands more than draws.

edit: josh beat me to it.

[TxRedMan]

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LOL @ PF being awful.

you're representing like - exactly 9T. When you do that, you get called.

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i assume hero has 100 BB's here. that said, i dont like calling a 3.5 BB raise from UTG when i'm UTG+1. we've got four players yet to act behind us, and iirc, isn't a suited connector about 2.5% stronger than an unsuited connector? bleh, whatever. it's really dependent on your style of play, and i'd call here from the button or the BB, but not UTG+1.