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#1
06-21-2007, 05:43 PM
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JJ against turn raise
Button is a 40/16/1.8 guy, kinda laggish.
Party Poker Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $0.05/$0.1 5 players Converter Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, CO calls, Button calls, BB calls. Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (16.4SB, 4 players) BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds. Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9.7BB, 3 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font> Whats your line here? bet/fold? check/call? check/fold? 
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#4
06-21-2007, 07:27 PM
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Re: JJ against turn raise
yup,hard to forget when ure on turn and u improved pocket pair with a draw u should check instaed of betting since a lot of cards can help u now,if u dont improve then u only have 2 outs,then u bet fold since u have almost no outs to improve and win..
always forget those as well  unless u think he might fold or u bet for value since is a calling station of course...
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#5
06-21-2007, 09:42 PM
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Re: JJ against turn raise
not a lot of cards can help you.. only a gut shot.. but you have to call because of the pot odds..
what if hero just check the turn, then what would he do facing a bet?.. fold right?
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#7
06-21-2007, 11:17 PM
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Re: JJ against turn raise
betting the turn is spew. We just got called in 3 places on a rainbow flop and this card just completed some straights and bigger pairs.
edit: OK, one straight--for JT
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#8
06-21-2007, 11:19 PM
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Re: JJ against turn raise
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Am I the only one not capping preflop or leading the flop? I'm getting rusty... [/ QUOTE ] Your hand has a decent edge against a likely loose coldcaller and laggy 3 bettor. Check turn.
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#9
06-21-2007, 11:20 PM
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Re: JJ against turn raise
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Am I the only one not capping preflop or leading the flop? I'm getting rusty... [/ QUOTE ] Look at the read on button again. Against some opponents I would not lead turn but not given CO's likely suckitude and button's lagginess.
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#10
06-22-2007, 12:05 AM
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Re: JJ against turn raise
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what if hero just check the turn, then what would he do facing a bet?.. fold right? [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely not. Hero would have almost enough to call on the gutshot alone, and the implied odds plus the possibility that the two remaining J's are still good for him make it an easy peel.
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