What do I do with AQo in the BB (7BB's) vs tight raiser?

[DevinLake]

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this is a fold in a cash game. here your M is beginning to get low, and you have a good hand against a late position raise, that often is a steal with a weak/average hand. Of course you're not folding! So push it.

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Ok please explain why this is -EV in a cashgame and +EV in a sng.

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Twisted,

I think what they are saying is that in a cash game, against a tight raiser they would just fold here (he'd have to be super nitty for me to not 3-bet him, but whatever).

However, in a sng, this tight raiser will open up in late position to steal the blinds.

So, I think they are comparing two different opponents. One with an actual tight range vs one with a much looser range.

[TwistedEcho]

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this is a fold in a cash game. here your M is beginning to get low, and you have a good hand against a late position raise, that often is a steal with a weak/average hand. Of course you're not folding! So push it.

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Ok please explain why this is -EV in a cashgame and +EV in a sng.

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Twisted,

I think what they are saying is that in a cash game, against a tight raiser they would just fold here (he'd have to be super nitty for me to not 3-bet him, but whatever).

However, in a sng, this tight raiser will open up in late position to steal the blinds.

So, I think they are comparing two different opponents. One with an actual tight range vs one with a much looser range.

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yes i assume that too, which is stupid to compare - thats like saying i call this hand in a $1000 sng and fold in a $1, but in the $1000 sng im playing against someone who is blind and the $1 is vs phil ivey.

Obviously if the players range is different in the cashgame, its a fold but then why even bother mentioning it - if they are saying they would fold the exact same hand vs the exact same player in a cashgame which is possible, then i want to know why because thats wrong.

[DevinLake]

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then i want to know why because thats wrong.

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I laughed.

[Slim Pickens]

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this is a fold in a cash game. here your M is beginning to get low, and you have a good hand against a late position raise, that often is a steal with a weak/average hand. Of course you're not folding! So push it.

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I think people are saying they would fold it in a cash game assuming stack depths typical of cash games. If this is a cash game and the stacks are the same, it's a push against all but the tightest of tight players. If the limiting stack is 200 BB, I don't really care what you do.

Also, we don't use M around here. It's easier to compute stack/BB on the fly so that's what gets used.

[Philo]

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CO had been tight and only raised once holding QQ earlier in the game. Time to push??

Thanks for any ideas.

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Hard to pass up AQ, and my first inclination is to push also. You will be called, and I think you are probably looking at being a slight dog with two overs to something like TT. You could also be a big dog to QQ or AK. Best case scenario is AJ, but that's really you're only good scenario IMO.

[JOHANSON YO]

how is it +ev to shove with Aqo here?

[Heavens_Myst]

because CO can easilly be raising wide, his image in the first few levels is irrelevant. He's CO and could easilly be trying to pick up the blinds. AQ is ahead of his range and hero is BB with less than 10 BB, time to pull the trigger

[DevinLake]

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how is it +ev to shove with Aqo here?

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Because of the range of hands a CO (even a tight one) can be raising with here. Not to mention if you weight the weaker hands in the range more heavily because of his 'scared' larger than necessary raise.

[Ditch Digger]

Looks like an instapush vs a CO raiser unless his PFR is less than 5%. The guy might be nitty but he's got a big stack so his range opens up. I'm shoving AJ as well.

[TwistedEcho]

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how is it +ev to shove with Aqo here?

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because we are ahead of his range.