NL200 AA, deepish

Ole A · #1 05-03-2007, 08:31 AM

Anything wrong with this line? No stats on this player yet, havent seen him out of line. His range is probably TT-AA+AK..?

Hero ($513.15)
BB ($200)
UTG ($216.35)
MP ($179.45)
CO ($98.10)
Button ($381.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $7, 2 folds, Button raises to $25, Hero raises to $55, 1 fold, UTG folds, Button calls $30.

Flop: ($119) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $77, Hero raises to $200, Button calls $381.35 (All-In), Hero calls $126.35.

Turn: ($903.70) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($903.70) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $903.70

Unknown Soldier · #2 05-03-2007, 08:33 AM

4b should be bigger

lead flop, after cr you obv can't fold.

Ole A · #3 05-03-2007, 08:45 AM

I agree that 4b should be bigger. But i only check the flop to trap, thinking this is a good flop for my hand. All agree leading flop is better?
Say i 4b to ~70, then lead for ~100, i still cant get away from a repush, right?

fitnessfreak · #4 05-03-2007, 08:56 AM

this is pretty deep. i 4bet to at least 75 preflop. if called i weak lead this flop and call a push. if i am just called on the flop i push the turn.

as played its tough because you havent really invested a lot of money yet relative to stack sizes. i also disagree with your range of hands that you put the villian on. because your 4bet preflop was so small you have pretty much forced him to call with any type of hand, including things like T9s, 87s, J8s etc.
i think that it is still possible to get away from this hand, but i dont know if i would. i think if i was planning on going with the hand i would weak lead to induce action from QQ or KK. if i thought he is the kind of player who would only raise if he had me beat i would bet closer to 100 and fold to a raise.

this spot is really ugly and is a great example of why preflop raise sizing is so important. preflop is really where you stuffed this hand up.

Ole A · #5 05-03-2007, 09:24 AM

If i told you i know the reraiser, and i know he would never reraise, even on the button, with suited connectors or low pairs, still a bad line?

4_2_it · #6 05-03-2007, 09:31 AM

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If you know the raiser that well, what is his 3-betting range? Will he call a 4-bet shove with JJ+? I'd really try to get it in pre-flop and failing that, I can't really see folding on this type of board because QQ and KK have to make up a good part of his range.

joeblack · #7 05-03-2007, 09:34 AM

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4b should be bigger & lead flop

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Kilillan · #8 05-03-2007, 09:38 AM

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Ole A · #9 05-03-2007, 10:03 AM

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If i told you i know the reraiser, and i know he would never reraise, even on the button, with suited connectors or low pairs, still a bad line?

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If you know the raiser that well, what is his 3-betting range? Will he call a 4-bet shove with JJ+? I'd really try to get it in pre-flop and failing that, I can't really see folding on this type of board because QQ and KK have to make up a good part of his range.

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I think i know him enough to know he has TT-AA+AK as a 3-betting range. Hes prob folding everything other than KK-AA (AA not beeing very realistic obv.) to a 4-bet push.. I always had a plan of checkraising a low/semi-low flop, but i agree i should 4-bet bigger pre..

So.. if you know hes got TT-AA+AK on this flop, you still lead? wouldnt make big difference i guess.. since hes probably checking TT and AK behind, and calling/pushing the other hands to a lead..

Grim Reapa · #10 05-03-2007, 11:33 AM

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Anything wrong with this line? No stats on this player yet, havent seen him out of line. His range is probably TT-AA+AK..?

If this is your read then instacall!!

I would prob just shove it preflop, looks weaker than a 4 bet IMO