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Old 08-29-2007, 03:02 AM
MatthewRyan MatthewRyan is offline
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Default flop/turn line with overpair

villian is 20-15 3 no other reads

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $156.00
BB: $437.00
UTG: $427.60
MP: $1,054.10
CO: $147.70
Hero (BTN): $458.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $12.00</font>, MP calls $12.00, CO folds, Hero calls $12.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($42) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">MP bets $36.00</font>, Hero calls $36.00, UTG folds

Turn: ($114) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $90.00</font>, Hero?

comments on flop also welcomed as well as wtf to do on various rivers
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:14 AM
ogdundar ogdundar is offline
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Default Re: flop/turn line with overpair

Flop is fine, raising here and calling a shove is a slight ahead/way behind situation at best. The turn is somewhat ugly yet it counterfeits 54. The problem with calling now though is that you will have to call a nonclub turn, and there is a big possibility he is taking you to valuetown.

Somewhat conservative but I fold the turn with no reads on villan.
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:18 AM
Irishman07 Irishman07 is offline
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Default Re: flop/turn line with overpair

I think you have to fold. You could easily have trip 9's here but he doesn't seem to care at all. You're either drawing to 2 outs or he has a monster draw and probably has 12 outs+. Flop call is fine.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:57 AM
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Default Re: flop/turn line with overpair

i like a turn fold as well. if he hasn't a 9 he has decent equity against your hand.
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:47 AM
danjohncochane danjohncochane is offline
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Default Re: flop/turn line with overpair

I'd raise preflop to about $60/$65.
Flop is good i don't think raising achieves anything.
Turn i'd fold this now.
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:03 AM
yenman yenman is offline
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Default Re: flop/turn line with overpair

Id say flat call and fold to river bets. I dont think this is a push/fold spot really. That is what villain wants you to do. Ofcourse, just folding is OK too.

i think flop raise might have had some good pot control implications if villain is real tight.
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Old 08-29-2007, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: flop/turn line with overpair

I'd fold, there are just too many ways for this hand to go wrong no matter what he has.
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