ballin' ass bluff raise vs. Jfish

[ddubois]

I guess I don't value bet rivers thin often enough to know whether JT or 99 or whatever can be expected to call. I wouldn't think they would. The only worse hands I see calling is like KsQs/QsJs/QsTs. And there's there's all the straights & ace-nokickers that you lose too. I just don't see much value. But I am probably wrong.

[Imrahil]

Is KK for jfish the same as JJ on the river? I mean if hero's (mike0292's) raise doesn't make much sense when you put it all together, does it make it as easy a call with KK as with JJ?

[mak15]

JJ beats 88 as well as the straights which might raise the river. also to be nitty JJ makes it somewhat less likely that villain has a full house.