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Old 04-04-2007, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: First time I\'ve been confused preflop for a long time

same scenario:

AQs
AQo
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54s
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: First time I\'ve been confused preflop for a long time

i think it's a call regardless but i'm trying to decide what SB's range is given these table conditions.

I feel like if it were five handed with someone between you and SB (so SB had the button when UTG raises and the fish calls, a sequence which would probably happen fairly often), then his rr range should be way way wider than here where he's OOP.

It's kind of like SBs penance for having position on the fish and getting the button every time the fish openlimps that he never gets to squeeze in position because it's 4 handed.
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Old 04-04-2007, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: First time I\'ve been confused preflop for a long time

Its close between calling and raising but no way im ever folding here
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Old 04-04-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: First time I\'ve been confused preflop for a long time

the only reason i dislike calling is that I hate it if we go 4 handed, because i'm usually only getting action from taggy players when totally crushed.

buuuuut since we gotta keep the fish in, i guess we call
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: First time I\'ve been confused preflop for a long time

I like raising better n callin. We can still fold to a push from sb or original raiser as I doubt many 400 tags would ever 5 bet you here without AA or KK, prob just AA.
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: First time I\'ve been confused preflop for a long time

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I like raising better n callin. We can still fold to a push from sb or original raiser as I doubt many 400 tags would ever 5 bet you here without AA or KK, prob just AA

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sure but if you raise here fish folds all his dominated A's and K's, but if you call he probably calls and stacks off if you both flop TP.
its close.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: First time I\'ve been confused preflop for a long time

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I like raising better n callin. We can still fold to a push from sb or original raiser as I doubt many 400 tags would ever 5 bet you here without AA or KK, prob just AA

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sure but if you raise here fish folds all his dominated A's and K's, but if you call he probably calls and stacks off if you both flop TP.
its close.

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im never that happy playing one pair with deepish stacks 4 handed. I just feel if we dont repop and flat call tag will call, fish will call, and we get stacked alot on A or K high flops when we cant get away from things.

+ alot of money in there now, and they will be folding their equity of that which is decent.
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