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Old 11-30-2007, 03:18 AM
llHessll llHessll is offline
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Default Re: Folded AK to raise PF (Standard??)

ok, well I can't remember the last time I raised only 2 out of 100 hands but maybe you're right. I'm going off the information I have, and I don't think that says it's "ridiculous" to toss ace high here OOP.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:21 AM
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ok, well I can't remember the last time I raised only 2 out of 100 hands but maybe you're right. I'm going off the information I have, and I don't think that says it's "ridiculous" to toss ace high here OOP.

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I'm pretty sure that I did it today at some point and I'm looser than you by far.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:31 AM
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1 out of 50 hands? Once every 6 rounds? C'mon, you've got to be slightly exaggerating...

He raised from early-mid position (5x also) and he's raised 2 out of ~ last 120 hands or something. I'd put him on AK, AA-TT, maybe 99. Perhaps I can squeeze a little profit out of him if an ace or king flops, but you'd think that would be countered by those few times he's got aces or kings and a king flops, or jacks on an AJ5 flop...
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:35 AM
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It just kind of shocks me how much people over value AK, and I love it when guys stack off to me at full ring with AK against my big pair... It's the SITUATION that leads me to think a fold might be correct. Mind you, I usually play AK fast and aggressive... but player dependency... come one..
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:38 AM
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but player dependency... come one..

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I know. This is why you should 3bet here.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:42 AM
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OK, I three bet, he's got the range I gave him. Random flop, I miss 2/3 of the time obv. and continuation bet. He's calling here the majority of the time and I'm now lost. Keep in mind he's almost certainly calling my three bet, if not 4-betting himself, and I'm not getting any action on a flop I hit unless we're chopping or he's got me CRUSHED. This is definately negative G-Bucks. I like G-Bucks.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:51 AM
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OK, I three bet, he's got the range I gave him. Random flop, I miss 2/3 of the time obv. and continuation bet. He's calling here the majority of the time and I'm now lost. Keep in mind he's almost certainly calling my three bet, if not 4-betting himself, and I'm not getting any action on a flop I hit unless we're chopping or he's got me CRUSHED. This is definately negative G-Bucks. I like G-Bucks.

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well, I like $$$ so thats why I take the actions I do.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:08 AM
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He raised from early-mid position (5x also) and he's raised 2 out of ~ last 120 hands or something. I'd put him on AK, AA-TT, maybe 99. Perhaps I can squeeze a little profit out of him if an ace or king flops, but you'd think that would be countered by those few times he's got aces or kings and a king flops, or jacks on an AJ5 flop...

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You have 41% equity vs. that range, and you're folding AK for 5BBs to a donk when you have position on him? Do you know how easily most people like him stack off? Your implied odds are great. You should be calling or raising him in this situation with any pair and some unpaired hands as well.

Oh and also, his 2% PFR% doesn't necessarily mean he's only raising the top 2% of hands. Donks love limping AA-QQ, AK, etc.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:39 AM
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wait..what?
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:41 AM
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If I am not mistaken hero is in bb so yeah folding is meah its probably better than calling and c/f the flop if no A/K hit, still I like to repop here so raise>fold>call
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