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Old 11-24-2007, 08:17 AM
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Default Re: AJs - All Streets Debatable

Since deaders is overcalling from the BB getting 3:1 I think his range includes lots of random QTs and stuff that might bet/fold.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: AJs - All Streets Debatable

flop check behind is fine. as is the call on the turn

river is strange. i take it to be a bluff, as you think villain is valuebetting a better hand, but you think it is a bit thin, and he will fold alot to a raise.

i spose it's ok, i'd just call the river bet personally
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: AJs - All Streets Debatable

I don't think AJ has very much showdown value at all. it would be really sweet if deaders knew AJ's line was FOS and snapcalled the river with like JThh though.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:52 AM
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Default Re: AJs - All Streets Debatable

idk why the turn play could even be in question as both folding and raising are pretty lol.

i don't see why deaders has to have a Q here. he obviously knows you don't as you would Cbet a Q+ on this flop and any draw. i would probably Vbet/blockerbet a J if i was deaders and you don't have to be right that often (about 1/4). pretty easy call on the river imo
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: AJs - All Streets Debatable

I don't like it at all. We are representing back door diamonds. What else gets there on the river? If representing one hand is a good bluff, then I guess this is exceptional.
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: AJs - All Streets Debatable

oh also the river is a good raise, can't really call profitably and hes also going to find a tough time looking you up, but like i said i fold turn
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:29 AM
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Default Re: AJs - All Streets Debatable

i'd just fold turn

and like everyone else has said - you're basically repping some very rare hands (rivered two pair, backdoor flush) so I don't like it
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: AJs - All Streets Debatable

I like how this was played except if I were going to bluff the river, I'd just shove.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: AJs - All Streets Debatable

On the river you only represent AdKd and AdTd, no?

Not sure if he can drop a Q here.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: AJs - All Streets Debatable

The river raise is good against a standard nittish opponent.
Personally in villains spot, I would contemplate for awhile and the call with a Q. Not sure bout J10 tho...
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