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Old 08-09-2007, 08:34 AM
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Default This is always a set right?

No specific history, villain is 21/14/1.77

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $194.64
BB: $62.24
UTG: $94.58
MP: $208.26
Hero (CO): $176.18
BTN: $24.71

Preflop: Hero is dealt K K (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $4.50, BB folds, UTG calls $4.00

Flop: ($16) 9 T 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $10.00</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $10.00

Turn: ($36) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $30.00</font>, Hero feels like he's been outflopped yet again
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:03 AM
ug45cwb ug45cwb is offline
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Default Re: This is always a set right?

why didnt you raise flop?
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: This is always a set right?

A set would be my first idea, too.
If SB is somewhat loose, then maybe 78s or T9s.

AK and KQ are unlikely since you hold KK.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:15 AM
Shizzle12345 Shizzle12345 is offline
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Default Re: This is always a set right?

As played i would call down since your hand is underrepped (how ever you spellthat). I Would personally raise the flop here..
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:26 AM
ArtieFish ArtieFish is offline
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Default Re: This is always a set right?

I would have liked a raise on the flop because a 3-bet by him almost nails him on set, but as played I call the turn and reevaluate river, calling in most scenarios. QJ and A10 are definite possibilites here and I think it's hard to put him on a set betting out like that unless you have history to support.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: This is always a set right?

meh, it's QJ sometimes. That's about it though.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:44 AM
ArtieFish ArtieFish is offline
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Default Re: This is always a set right?

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meh, it's QJ sometimes. That's about it though.

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Yea I just meant you can throw those two hands (QJ and A10) into the range. But what are the thoughts on it actually being a set?
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: This is always a set right?

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why didnt you raise flop?

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because of the board texture, basically the only hand that will bet two streets is a set or 2pr so raising is bascially throwing money in his face, whereas calling the flop and folding a brick turn is cheaper and IMO just as good range-wise because draws arent really in his range very much here
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: This is always a set right?

I dont mind the flop call and you can fold turn.
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:54 AM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Default Re: This is always a set right?

I like the flop call and the turn fold.
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