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11-16-2007, 06:35 AM
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pay off?
live 30 game.
BB here is an exceptional player. we have a long history. utg is a spazz, but knows he is in treacherous waters vs. me and the BB. utg raises, folds to me in the hijack and i 3bet A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] folds to BB who calls, utg calls. flop 3 ways for 9.67SB J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] bb checks, utg donks, i call, bb calls. turn 3 ways for 6.3BB: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] BB checks, utg bets, I call, BB calls. River 3 ways for 9.3BB: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] BB donks, utg mutters and folds, I........... 
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#2
11-16-2007, 06:40 AM
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Re: pay off?
pay the man. He's earned it.
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11-16-2007, 06:43 AM
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Re: pay off?
Wow. This spot sucks. I honestly would love to see what he has here though I am guessing it is AxQs or KQs. At best you are hoping for a chop with a slightly passive AK. Villain knows he is never folding utg out with a 4bet pf and he is oop against your 3bet range so that could be a possibility.
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#4
11-16-2007, 06:45 AM
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Re: pay off?
[ QUOTE ]
Wow. This spot sucks. I honestly would love to see what he has here though I am guessing it is AxQs or KQs. At best you are hoping for a chop with a slightly passive AK. Villain knows he is never folding utg out with a 4bet pf and he is oop against your 3bet range so that could be a possibility. [/ QUOTE ] he cant have KQ given his turn line.
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#5
11-16-2007, 06:49 AM
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Re: pay off?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Wow. This spot sucks. I honestly would love to see what he has here though I am guessing it is AxQs or KQs. At best you are hoping for a chop with a slightly passive AK. Villain knows he is never folding utg out with a 4bet pf and he is oop against your 3bet range so that could be a possibility. [/ QUOTE ] he cant have KQ given his turn line. [/ QUOTE ] Oh yeah thought KQ nut straight came in on river. yeah I want to see AQ.
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#6
11-16-2007, 06:51 AM
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Re: pay off?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wow. This spot sucks. I honestly would love to see what he has here though I am guessing it is AxQs or KQs. At best you are hoping for a chop with a slightly passive AK. Villain knows he is never folding utg out with a 4bet pf and he is oop against your 3bet range so that could be a possibility. [/ QUOTE ] he cant have KQ given his turn line. [/ QUOTE ] Oh yeah thought KQ nut straight came in on river. yeah I want to see AQ. [/ QUOTE ] but how can he ever have that here?
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#7
11-16-2007, 06:54 AM
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Re: pay off?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wow. This spot sucks. I honestly would love to see what he has here though I am guessing it is AxQs or KQs. At best you are hoping for a chop with a slightly passive AK. Villain knows he is never folding utg out with a 4bet pf and he is oop against your 3bet range so that could be a possibility. [/ QUOTE ] he cant have KQ given his turn line. [/ QUOTE ] Oh yeah thought KQ nut straight came in on river. yeah I want to see AQ. [/ QUOTE ] but how can he ever have that here? [/ QUOTE ] Well a loose flop peel w/ Qs and he is closing the action. The turn is close though. I am a bit befuddled by some good live players ranges in this spot pf though.
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#10
11-16-2007, 08:33 AM
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Re: pay off?
Schneids always has you beat here. Tell him to go play 1k/2k and that'll you'll buy more action than normal so that'll he'll leave. +EV in so many ways.
You are ahead of exactly AK[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img][img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] here which he is always 4-betting here preflop because it would be more fun to get HU with you. He is not bluffing into a bad player when it also looks like that you may also have AQ here. Fold.
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