bellagio shakeup

[Rottersod]

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Hey everybody!
I heard that TT is Nate.
Kind of surprised me. Had no idea.

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You better tell your us source or TT will take away your custom title.

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Someone is missing something about what is going on here. It is unlikely that MGM Mirage would terminate a bunch of senior management unless there was some sort of policy dispute. There has to be more to the story.

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youre kidding? these more to the story than "i wonder what happened?"?

[magoo]

All nonsensical arrogance. If a joint is open to the public and TAKING money from people, it has a duty to treat all SUCKERS EQUALLY, regardless of the limit they are playing. If a joint doesn't provide quality service for all it's PAYING PATRONS, it's license should be snatched by the state.

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"And yes I fully agree Bellagio staff doesn't care about low limit games, but why should they?"


Dude, PLEASE give up being a Mod. The forum would be much better for it (IMHO).


Best Wishes

Howard

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Howard - I suggest you take the time to consider the business realities of poker room operation that balances the needs of the casino and the player carefully rather than only see the POV of the player. I can only assume that this is the case because you are attacking that statement. And that statement is also a reason why I was selected to become a mod - I see through the standard nitty gripes that many players have and can hope to point them on the right path to understanding the poker economy.

To elaborate, The Bellagio doesn't need low limit business, but it still caters a table or two for the guests who need this option. I know its something you and many others want - and rightfully so, but its obviously not a part of their master strategy that shows with their bothersome attitude (for what its worth, the higher limit games get some of the same treatment). They don't need low limit games to survive, and anyone who goes to the B to play low limit games regularly is likely doing so for non-traditional reasons - the room isn't designed for their needs. With that said I think the B does a 1/2 decent job at catering to low limit players considering its not their focus, but if I played 4/8 or 1/2 regularly I'd chose another room to play in for sure. Its interesting how 90% of the time we hear about Bellagio complaints on this forum its from low limit players, they would be much better served taking their business elsewhere since the room intentionally doesn't serve their needs - but thats not something to gripe about (unless your griping that the room is too small and need to double its size to accommodate lower limit games)

On a related note I was playing 15/30 on Monday when an old regular complained that the list was almost 20 names deep yet they didn't spread a new table. She was focused on her own needs rather than the needs of the poker room as a business - and in turn the current majority of players in the room; since the 5 diamond tournament is in town 15/30 is low on the priority list when they are holding empty tables for bigger games that are popping up left and right.

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Someone is missing something about what is going on here. It is unlikely that MGM Mirage would terminate a bunch of senior management unless there was some sort of policy dispute. There has to be more to the story.

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youre kidding? these more to the story than "i wonder what happened?"?

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I was talking about the ensuing discussion, which suggested that this was just a move to get a more friendly floor.

[Abe]

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Hey everybody!
I heard that TT is Nate.
Kind of surprised me. Had no idea.

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You better tell your us source or TT will take away your custom title.

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*TT* = Nate ?
Just that its posted on THIS forum makes it pretty factual.
If it was posted in NVG, I'd be a little skeptical.

[The DaveR]

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super mean bald dude is nate who was let go and now works at ceasers (thats TT for the INSIDER INFO!). hes not really super mean, actually a nice guy.

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Yeah, after a while he struck me as way overworked and trying to do a job that two people should split.

[bav]

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All nonsensical arrogance. If a joint is open to the public and TAKING money from people, it has a duty to treat all SUCKERS EQUALLY, regardless of the limit they are playing. If a joint doesn't provide quality service for all it's PAYING PATRONS, it's license should be snatched by the state.

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I wouldn't go that far. They certainly don't have to treat me the same way they treat a $billion whale. But they do have to be polite and professional, which is something B has failed to do for me several times (not every visit, but like one in four visits someone in a suit in the poker room makes it clear they wish I wasn't there).

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All nonsensical arrogance. If a joint is open to the public and TAKING money from people, it has a duty to treat all SUCKERS EQUALLY, regardless of the limit they are playing. If a joint doesn't provide quality service for all it's PAYING PATRONS, it's license should be snatched by the state.

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I wouldn't go that far. They certainly don't have to treat me the same way they treat a $billion whale. But they do have to be polite and professional, which is something B has failed to do for me several times (not every visit, but like one in four visits someone in a suit in the poker room makes it clear they wish I wasn't there).

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I was talking about this to some mid limit players, and one high limit friend the other day. The general opinion was that unless your a regular, that "bad taste" was in everyones mouth. The staff at the Bellagio have never been the nicest. Even though I loved Boba, I've heard countless complaints about his attitude as well for example. As consumers we all have the option to choose, luckily there are other options available in the majority of stakes that most players in this thread play.

Additionally I think its ridiculous to avoid a room just because you were treated bad if they have the greatest selection of games available at your limits in a given market. We (most of us) play poker to make money, I'd chose to play at a room where I hate the staff and the environment if the games were ultra juicy or they had the greatest options available. AC regulars would understand this better than Vegas locals I think, we were stuck with the Taj for years until the Borgata created a better mousetrap - now its a very close decision between very juicy games at the Taj, and abundance of tables to chose from/comfort/better staff at the Borgata. Another example is Commerce, sure the Bike is nicer but the game selection pales in comparison.

In short if the Bellagio offers the best options for your games/limits, then play there regardless of what you think about the staff. Since low limit games are not in abundance at the Bellagio, you shouldn't consider the Bellagio if your looking for low limit games - making the staff attitude complaint a moot point. But no worries if you want to play at the Bellagio, it seems as if everyone is treated the same way - like crap. At least its fair, and oddly this actually adds to the rooms mystique.

[DQPaulie]

Anymore verification of the DD to Mohegan Sun aspect?

Paulie

[rafiki]

So is Mohegan Sun supposed to have some big poker room ? I'm not a local, never heard of this place being built. Who owns it ?