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Old 10-15-2007, 11:48 PM
Hotrod0823 Hotrod0823 is offline
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Default Live Cash Game ruling.... Crazy Pineapple hand

Last night played in a bar tourney and after busted in 15th sat in the cash game that started up. It is a NL tourney but the cash game plays dealers choice. NL Omaha high, NL holdem or NL Pineapple or Crazy Pineapple,(whichever one you discard after the flop).

Anyway it is 1/2 blinds but plays pretty loose and fast. We were playing 11 handed and it was a pineapple hand with a 4.00 straddle.

Raise to 15, many callers, RR to 30 from the straddle and ends up being 5 to the flop. Stacks vary from 150-500. Dealer is out of the hand. I wasn't in the hand either and not familiar with Pineapple so I tend to fold many many hands when that game is called. Hence my question about rules.

Ok so the PF pot is somewhere around 150-160 bucks. Dealer deals the flop. It was pretty uncoordinated, checks to the button and he is thinking about taking a stab that this pot. As players check they discard, usually in 1 motion.

Now action is on the button he is thinking, playing with chips, looking at his cards. Dealer is ancy and playing with the deck. He has a habit of buring early and was ready to deal the turn when some one on the end of the table declares he saw a 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and completely halts everything but at the same time the button checks but didn't discard.

2 things then happened. The guy with the view of the card is very knowledgeable and plays in this game regularily here and other places. He insists the 6 be shown and then shuffled into the stub. Meanwhile the button finally discards.

The SB then erupts. "why was the 6 shown then shuffled in. It wasn't the 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] it was the 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and it screws my hand." He wants his money back.

"I was playing my hand for that card and you took away my outs!!!" Ok so we now know he has 66.

"I want my 30 bucks back!!"

Table Captain asks the table if they agree, I was out and had no opinion, I barely know the rule of pineapple and just kept my mouth shut. The rest comply. It is decent size stakes but still mostly a friendly game.

Now another player at the table says the button's hand has to be dead. He didn't discard with his check and still had cards when the 6 was exposed. They say the rule is the discard has to come before the check. If you are betting then you can say bet, make they bet and then discard. Not sure why this is the rule but thats how they play. Is it standard? Should his hand be dead?

Also, some players wanted the 6 to remain as the turn card. Buttons hand was now dead and the 6 should remain. It didn't and play then continued.

Thoughts?
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