Battle Of the Blinds, Limped Pot, 3rd Nuts Deep stacked WTF?

[blunty31]

NL200 Villian is a reguler but I dont think he's a winner, Ive seen him pull off some bad plays and make some bad calls. I beielve his stats are in the 17/5 neighborhood.
We're both semi deep, he has around $350 and I have him covered.

Im in the BB with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Folded to SB who completes, and I Check.

Flop

J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB Checks, I Check

Turn

8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB Bets $6, I Raise to $16, SB Pushes for ~$320, I?

[thunderbolt]

WOW.....think he spiked a 8 on the turn? Or has 222 or JJJ?

Prolly not but heck thats alot to call off.

[pterodactyl_]

I definetly raise PF. As played I call.
I think you see two pair here far more often than a set. What are his PF stats? Is it likely he would complete from the SB with JJ or 88 and not come in for a raise?

[ez game]

Call, its an expensive mistake if he has jj or 88 but considering no pf raise I think you will see 222 or two pair enough to justify a call.

[thunderbolt]

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Call, its an expensive mistake if he has jj or 88 but considering no pf raise I think you will see 222 or two pair enough to justify a call.

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222 or even 2 pair.....so you say call?

[rei]

I think it's an easy call, I wouldn't even be surprised if he's "slowplaying" aces! If he's got jacks he most probably wouldn't do this. and given your post he's a bad player to be doing level 2 thinking here to make it look like a bluff.

R.

[LBK]

Dude, you call. Your set is disguised. You cant fold this hand in this spot. Guy could have a full range of hands he thought were ahead of you. More often than not, you are up against 2 pair in this situation. If he had a big hand like jacks or 8's why wouldn't he raise preflop against the blind. Anyway, its an instacall. There's not much you should fear in this spot.

[blunty31]

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Call, its an expensive mistake if he has jj or 88 but considering no pf raise I think you will see 222 or two pair enough to justify a call.

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222 or even 2 pair.....so you say call?

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I think youre misreading the hand, I have a set of 4's

[Mr_Donktastic]

Not that it makes a whole lot of difference but you should be raising preflop. I would also bet the flop.

I say call. It is a ridiculous overbet for villian to make unless he has you so pegged that he knows you have a set, which is pretty unlikely.

[JMurder3]

Yeah, sux on the rare occassion he has the 88 or JJ, but that's poker, gotta make that call.