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Old 11-29-2007, 11:34 AM
Thomas Luice Thomas Luice is offline
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Default Bottom pair vs. continue bet to river

Villain raised a wide range of hand (67/29) preflop. No really reads on his postflop play.

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Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7.25BB

<font color="blue">Was c/r on flop/turn necessary to protect my hand? And what about folding on the river? </font>
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:11 PM
FlopYouDead FlopYouDead is offline
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Default Re: Bottom pair vs. continue bet to river

On super dry flops like these I c/r flop. It's obvious no one is drawing so you either have it or you don't. I make my declaration and see how he responds.

The fact that you are calling down on a completely drawless board is a pretty clear indication that you have a weak pair. The overcards keep coming and he keeps betting which could be a 3 barrel as easily as a vb if he puts you on the hand you have. I guess you'd be looking for Ax but I don't know if there are enough combinations to call.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:25 PM
mattnxtc mattnxtc is offline
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Default Re: Bottom pair vs. continue bet to river

IMO c/r flop &gt; any other option.

If his numbers are somewhat passive post flop then you could probably fold the river.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:58 PM
jstill jstill is offline
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Default Re: Bottom pair vs. continue bet to river

u could always go for the stox cr flop ck turn line... ck call flop is ok too tho i think, but on the turn/river vs this type its gonna be hard to find a fold and not put in more money behind than when ahead
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