400NL - Please school me on the river c/r bluff

Mossberg · #1 08-20-2007, 02:59 PM

I'm just moving up from 200 where I crushed the games playing a pretty straightforward 19/16/4 style. I'm realizing that I need to start adding some new tricks to my arsenal if I expect to make cake at 400. So I've been thinking alot about checkraising the river more, both for value, and as a bluff.

villain is playing a very LAG game, running @ 34/25/4 over 240 hands. I'm not sure how much it matters over a smallish sample, but his wtsd is only @ 11%. I haven't decided if he's a good/great/bad LAG yet. I think he probably sees me as kinda nitty, but aggro and solid.

So is this a good spot for a c/r bluff? Why, or why not? I feel like it is for a couple reasons - mostly because of my image, and the fact that it's unlikely he can have a king strong enough to stand a c/r here.

Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $348.10
Hero: $394.00
Button: $1.239.05
SB: $306.20
BB: $569.70

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero raises to $16, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($52, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($52, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $36, Button calls, SB folds.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($124, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $100, Hero pulls the trigger, or gives it up?

AAismyfriend · #2 08-20-2007, 03:07 PM

Given your image....I kinda like it. I'd also like it with AK.

wrkingtobegreat · #3 08-20-2007, 03:13 PM

Shove---Villain feels good about calling with approximately 2% of his range here. (his range is big, if your a little slow)

blankoblanco · #4 08-20-2007, 04:29 PM

my question is what are we representing if we shove?

FooSH · #5 08-20-2007, 04:35 PM

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my question is what are we representing if we shove?

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It might be a cliche, but villians will put you on AK more than any other hand.

blankoblanco · #6 08-20-2007, 04:43 PM

it's just that 3 players saw the turn in a raised pot. is one pair (well, two with board, but you know) really good enough to check/shove river with? are you actually going to do this when you have AK and expect to be called by worse?

Nielsio · #7 08-20-2007, 04:48 PM

wowwww 100% spew if you did this

kevdawg21 · #8 08-20-2007, 04:49 PM

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my question is what are we representing if we shove?

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I was thinking the same thing. If we're trying to fold a K here, I guess we're representing AK. It might work, but it has to be a pretty high percentage play, since we're risking $340 to win $224. I'd probably give it up.

fearless2k · #9 08-20-2007, 05:12 PM

spew if u shove here, AK will call, Donky w MP will call. 45 Calls, tbh we dont represent enough strength due to the check on the flop, only viable hand we can have here is AK/KQ?
are we trying to convince villian we have AK? or hope he has missed draw and we take the pot? or working on a sick meta game of some sort.. ?
Imo Fold, First showdown with stone nuts, then add in the odd steals.

Mossberg · #10 08-20-2007, 05:29 PM

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wowwww 100% spew if you did this

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No I did not pull the trigger. The point of this thread was to get some insight into why or why not to c/r bluff here - if you don't think it's a good spot, then please atleast give a brief explanation of why, rather than just a "wowwww, spew".