Did I overcount my outs?

[sarsen]

I've never flamed anyone on this forum, but this hand and OP's reasoning make me want to really bad. Lets just say I read the hand and vomited all over my screen and leave it at that.

Read or reread SSHE and THINK about what it says...please.

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[bravos1]

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it will be case queen + 9 cards

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This is exactly what I was eluding to in my post. You know your pretty much gonna show this down unless a 4th heart comes and you don't pair the board (still read dependant), so you basically have 10 outs to work with here.

[bodnotbod]

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This is going from bad to worse, even in my unworthy newbie eyes.

You played with a bankroll that crippled your ability to play one hand without fear? I now have the image of my lovely Pacific people who sit down with $1 to play 5c/10c ring games, get dealt TT first hand and then blissfully toss it all in and then disappear.

I hardly dare to ask, but go on: what was your bankroll and what was the big bet?

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Not quite that small. I had available between 50 and 100 big bets in a limit game (I know the optimum bankroll is larger than that), but I had been getting clobbered in big hands already this night and, well, as you can see, got a little gun-shy.

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It is very naughty to be playing at a level where you have only 50 to 100 BB. Please act on what you know. Not acting on what you know to be right is not good.

I think you 'tilt' in the same way I do. Rather than throwing chips around I retreat into my shell. Which, when you consider I play less aggressively than I should anyway, is something to work on.

[bigbrother36]

So if you only had $100 why aren't you playing .10/.20. We poked a little fun at you and I hope your feelings aren't hurt, too bad. But you need to hear this.
If you don't understand getting your money in the pot when you are over 98% certain to have the best hand, then you have some serious studying/thinking to do before you play even one more hand of poker at any stake.

[big show]

This should be the post of the week. Not to be unduly harsh but this is one of the main leaks in micro limit players hands. Pushing not so small edges. You think to much about the math, priortize your learning you have an aggression problem. A lack of aggression. I understand, I used to be a nut peddler, then one day I was tired of running scared, looking for ways I was beat, and decided not to have a defeatist attitude.

[Gregatron]

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Re-Raise Preflop

I like the re-reraise on the flop probally should cap "I would at least"

He bets turn I would call down.

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This is my line too. Cap the flop, call down after that.

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IMO not the most credible source

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You seem to know what you are talking about here.

[bravos1]

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This should be the post of the week. Not to be unduly harsh but this is one of the main leaks in micro limit players hands. Pushing not so small edges. You think to much about the math, priortize your learning you have an aggression problem. A lack of aggression. I understand, I used to be a nut peddler, then one day I was tired of running scared, looking for ways I was beat, and decided not to have a defeatist attitude.

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I see a lot of nut peddling in the micros and it really hurts their bottom line which is $$$$$.

I'm not a NL expert (I'm not even that good at NL IMO and by no means a limit expert either [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]), but I can definitely see nut peddling as a viable line in micro NL because you can make up those missed bets (very easily by my experience). The problems in limit are obvious.. you only have a fixed number of opporunuties to make bets and those bets are of fixed amount.

In limit, you need to push your edges to maximize your returns.