a hand vs PA, 200/400 HU

[KRANTZ]

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Krantz: How often do you push turn here with ace high flush and how often do you push turn with this hand?

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depends on the opponent and how the match has been going. here i felt like patrick would think i look weaker in calling the turn rather than raising.

i like what irockhoes/isura had to say. i think i'm in agreement there.

waiting on a cpl more people to post before i give results

[Terkman]

obv it depends on how the match is running. But in this specific hand, do you raise ace high flush more often or less often than 8 high flush? If you have ace high flush there aren't that many really bad rivers but you are more likely to get action from a worse hand. If he has a worse flush i assume you get action on non club river anyway so I kind of like flatting turn with both assuming he bets river as often as it sounds like. Really curious about your thoughts about this though. Think you played this hand perfect btw. River is tough to answer and it really comes down to PAs bluffing frequency, which you know better than me.

[Isura]

I think the crux of the hand is that PA is going to underestimate how often we have a flush, and that is going to throw off his bluffing frequencies to our benefit. Requin is spot on about us having the flush blockers. And also he can have the Ac which is a good blocker against us having a flush or AA. If I had to guess he had AcT or KcJ.

[AcidKnight]

If he has some kind of weird strength made hand, like AcTx or something of a similar relative strength, how is he gonna play the river with that hand? I guess what I'm saying is, how often is he gonna realize that AcTx is not the best hand after your turn call and turn the hand into a bluff on the river here?

It feels like the parts of his range that would have some showdown value here would be more apt to check the river and fold or CRAI depending on your action, than they would to pot the river into you.

[SILLYGOOSER]

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I think the crux of the hand is that PA is going to underestimate how often we have a flush, and that is going to throw off his bluffing frequencies to our benefit. Requin is spot on about us having the flush blockers. And also he can have the Ac which is a good blocker against us having a flush or AA. If I had to guess he had AcT or KcJ.

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Why would he understimate how often we have a flush? Are you saying KRANTZ rarely plays a flush this way? Because he just did. I think FindaGrind could catch onto that pretty quickly.

Also who cares if he underestimates how often we have da flush? Betting on the river you think he's prayin to the Lord that we have an overpair? If so why not make the argument for calling with an overpair? Seems like a low flush and an overpair would be the same.