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Old 11-09-2007, 11:09 PM
OhioSt2k OhioSt2k is offline
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Default NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop

villain is cmitch and we have some history of getting stacks in the pot over the last 2 days.
he is aggressive and loose 20+/15+/2+ type stats. help me with flop play

FullTiltPoker Game #3969315884: Table Trails End (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:59:39 ET - 2007/10/26
Seat 1: PlzFoldxX ($456)
Seat 2: cmitch ($463)
Seat 3: doc355 ($322.90)
Seat 4: philuva ($612.70)
Seat 5: motiv4 ($828.65)
Seat 6: HERO ($768.65)
motiv4 posts the small blind of $2
HERO posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [9c 6c]
PlzFoldxX has 15 seconds left to act
PlzFoldxX folds
cmitch raises to $14
doc355 folds
philuva folds
motiv4 folds
HERO calls $10

*** FLOP *** [Ts 6d 9h]
HERO checks
cmitch bets $20
HERO raises to $72
cmitch has 15 seconds left to act
cmitch raises to $184
HERO ????


villain is strong tag with 18/14/2 stats. i call with the intention of trapping
played well or not ?

POKERSTARS GAME #12849310037: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2007/10/25 - 23:33:42 (ET)
Table 'Icarion II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: HERO ($580 in chips)
Seat 2: F.Savage ($406.80 in chips)
Seat 3: farlzz ($604 in chips)
Seat 4: pablostar ($439 in chips)
Seat 6: NE1_Call ($400 in chips)
farlzz: posts small blind $2
pablostar: posts big blind $4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Kd Kh]
NE1_Call: folds
HERO: raises $12 to $16
F.Savage: raises $32 to $48
farlzz: folds
pablostar: folds
HERO: calls $32

*** FLOP *** [8s 2s 2c]
HERO: checks
F.Savage: bets $68
HERO: raises $176 to $244
F.Savage: calls $176

*** TURN *** [8s 2s 2c] [4h]
HERO: bets $288 and is all-in
F.Savage: calls $114.80 and is all-in

*** RIVER *** [8s 2s 2c 4h] [3h]


we are short handed and villain has been PFR an PF-RR quite a bit.
when he just calls m flop raise i get spooked and dont know how to proceed.

FullTiltPoker Game #3968054884: Table Vintners (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:47:38 ET - 2007/10/25
Seat 1: LeNewbian ($406)
Seat 3: Mano Nera ($189.65)
Seat 5: HERO ($751.40)
HERO posts the small blind of $2
LeNewbian posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #3

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Tc Ac]
Mano Nera folds
HERO raises to $14
LeNewbian raises to $42
HERO calls $28

*** FLOP *** [4d Ad Ks]
HERO checks
LeNewbian bets $50
HERO raises to $125 <-- bad spot to CR???
LeNewbian calls $75

*** TURN *** [4d Ad Ks] [7h]
HERO has 15 seconds left to act
HERO checks
LeNewbian bets $239, and is all in
HERO ???

villain loves to min-raise and min-re-raise. i havent seen him turn up with much except one hand where he called ai with half stack on a Q73 board with TT.
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:39 PM
praios praios is offline
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Default Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop

use a hand converter
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop

er praios have you EVER used a hand converter?
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop

And praios, thats where you say "touche!"

Hahaha! Don't tell people to use a hand converter when you have never used one.
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:16 AM
OhioSt2k OhioSt2k is offline
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Default Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop

sorry about the converter i will look into it next time.

what about the hands
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:30 AM
cbboy cbboy is offline
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Default Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop

Try looking into it this time. It doesn't take that long to convert the hands.
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop

change the title of this thread to "I just suck preflop"...forget about postflop for now
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop

Flop raise in 3 is obviously gash.

And suck less pf.
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:54 PM
cero_z cero_z is offline
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Default Re: NL 400 - Sticky situations or I just suck postflop

Hey OhioSt2k,

Hand 1, my read is slightly different on Villain, so I would shove happily and expect to be called by his whole range, which is JJ+ /2 pair/set most of the time, QJ once in a while maybe, never air, and obviously the overpair is most of the range. Overpairs are by far the most common hand he'll have here IMO. Also, I'd fold pre-flop vs. a Villain like you described.

Hand 2, I'm surprised you c/r'd flop. Normally, that will not work on this board vs. hands you want to stack. However, you say you were spooked when he called the raise? That makes even less sense, since a call by him is the same as a shove here, and you were presumably shoving for value and not trying to bluff out AA+ [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] There's no money left compared to the pot; no decision after you raise flop.

Hand 3, Villain is terrible if he plays like you described, but he obviously has you smoked here. Also, I think a shove is a lot better than a small raise, with the diamonds on board (but I agree with everyone that a c/r is bad).
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