Semibluff spot

NinaWilliams · #1 10-17-2007, 02:47 PM

Villain is unknown. This is the second time in a row that I opened OTB and he 3 bet from the sb. If I raise the flop I have to be the turn UI, right?

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7SB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero

frenchpignouf · #2 10-17-2007, 02:57 PM

Right, but I wait the turn to raise in this spot. It increases your FE imo.

If the blinds 3 bet a lot, maybe it's better to be tighter when you steal the blinds.

kendal14 · #3 10-17-2007, 02:59 PM

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Right, but I wait the turn to raise in this spot. It increases your FE imo.

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Calling the flop and raising the turn would be my play at this point. However, what do you do if/when he 3B the turn? Call and fold the river UI?

Oink · #4 10-17-2007, 03:05 PM

I just c/c c/c c/f UI here.

I dont expect anyone to fold a better hand

danzasmack · #5 10-17-2007, 03:09 PM

oink i think that's dine if you play a jack the same way

cashout preflop

frenchpignouf · #6 10-17-2007, 03:11 PM

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Right, but I wait the turn to raise in this spot. It increases your FE imo.

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Calling the flop and raising the turn would be my play at this point. However, what do you do if/when he 3B the turn? Call and fold the river UI?

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Of course, but the point is 3 bet on the turn is quite rare and the cost is around 1.2 BB. If sb can fold A high or Q high in this 6.5 BB pot, it's worth it imo.

Oink · #7 10-17-2007, 03:11 PM

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oink i think that's dine if you play a jack the same way

cashout preflop

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Good point and I do. But yeah thats important!

yourface · #8 10-17-2007, 03:37 PM

I think a J is too strong to just call down here for the same reason that this is a bad semibluffing spot with our FD - we get looked up by any hand with SD value

just calling down with underPPs and strong aces should be enough to balance imo

yourface · #9 10-17-2007, 03:42 PM

most guys aren't going to 3bet us with a lot of hands that beat us so we don't even need 66% equity. JQ AJ QQ maybe even AA will likely slow down fearing the K

jba · #10 10-17-2007, 03:47 PM

anyone else think raising the turn > raising flop?