Would you have folded pocket aces pre-flop?

[SossMan]

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A very good friend of mine plays at the Hollywood Hard Rock Casino in Florida every night. He told me that his friend just got back from playing in the Foxwood's Poker Classic $10,000 main event. On the first day, the following situation arose. It was nearing the dinner break. 4 players go all-in pre-flop and the action is to his friend. He looks down and finds pocket aces. He is covered by several of the all-ins. He thinks for awhile and then mucks his aces, pre-flop.

Turns out he would have lost the hand. His name is Larry Klur. He ended up finishing 4th and winning $292,264. How many of you would have done that?

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he (your friend) or larry is lying about the hand. the situation probably did occur and he thought about what he would do with aces and decided it would be fun if he told everyone he had aces and laid it down (and he would have lost, of course!)

please never post about folding AA preflop again.

thanks.

[bocablkr]

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He was probably about 30% to win the hand and multiply his chip count by 5X (I don't have Pokerstove avaiable here, but I think 30% is about right). I'm sure he went all-in numerous times after this hand, and had to beat better than 30% odds to get to where he ended up. In other words, a terrible fold.

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I ran the pocket five simulator for AA's against 4 random hands and the AA's won around 55%. Figuring 4 all-ins means these were better than 4 random hands I would say your estimate would be fairly close. I don't think I could have layed them down though.

[Sam T.]

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The second situation involves a tournament with a bubble where everyone who makes it to a certain placing gets to live and the others are put into a gas chamber to be killed.

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I played one of these tournaments once. It was nerve-wracking, but I was able to abuse the [censored] out of the bubble.

[stevepa]

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I ran the pocket five simulator for AA's against 4 random hands and the AA's won around 55%. Figuring 4 all-ins means these were better than 4 random hands I would say your estimate would be fairly close. I don't think I could have layed them down though.

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Reading your posts in this thread make me angry...I don't know if it's intentional or not, but everything you say makes it sound like he made a great fold. Of course you COULD fold the AA, you wouldn't because you're not a [censored] idiot.

Steve

P.S. I agree 100% with Soss that this hand did not happen as was stated in the OP.

[bocablkr]

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A very good friend of mine plays at the Hollywood Hard Rock Casino in Florida every night. He told me that his friend just got back from playing in the Foxwood's Poker Classic $10,000 main event. On the first day, the following situation arose. It was nearing the dinner break. 4 players go all-in pre-flop and the action is to his friend. He looks down and finds pocket aces. He is covered by several of the all-ins. He thinks for awhile and then mucks his aces, pre-flop.

Turns out he would have lost the hand. His name is Larry Klur. He ended up finishing 4th and winning $292,264. How many of you would have done that?

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he (your friend) or larry is lying about the hand. the situation probably did occur and he thought about what he would do with aces and decided it would be fun if he told everyone he had aces and laid it down (and he would have lost, of course!)

please never post about folding AA preflop again.

thanks.

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Sir,

I assure you this is the truth. That is why I posted it because when my friend (Kenny) told me the story I was amazed. Larry plays at the Hard Rock all the time. He is a standup guy - no need for stories. I am not sure how I can prove this except to give you my word. You can always come to Florida and verify it yourself. You can also see that Larry came in 4th by going to cardplayer.com.

Your friend hates money. I'm glad he now has a lot of it.

[stevepa]

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Sir,

I assure you this is the truth. That is why I posted it because when my friend (Kenny) told me the story I was amazed. Larry plays at the Hard Rock all the time. He is a standup guy - no need for stories. I am not sure how I can prove this except to give you my word. You can always come to Florida and verify it yourself. You can also see that Larry came in 4th by going to cardplayer.com.

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There you go again...please substitute the word horrified, shocked, disgusted, etc. for amazed or edit it to read "amazed at his horrible fold", "amazed that someone I thought was good at poker could make such a bad fold", "amazed that anyone who's actually a living, breathing person would be bad enough to make this fold", etc.

Thanks in advance,

Steve

[dmk]

steve keeps getting cooler and cooler. keep it up and i'll be forced to buy you a drink in vegas come wsop time

[bocablkr]

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I ran the pocket five simulator for AA's against 4 random hands and the AA's won around 55%. Figuring 4 all-ins means these were better than 4 random hands I would say your estimate would be fairly close. I don't think I could have layed them down though.

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Reading your posts in this thread make me angry...I don't know if it's intentional or not, but everything you say makes it sound like he made a great fold. Of course you COULD fold the AA, you wouldn't because you're not a [censored] idiot.

Steve

P.S. I agree 100% with Soss that this hand did not happen as was stated in the OP.

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Steve,

Where do I say it was a great fold - I would not have done it. I was just relaying the facts of the hand. What if he would have won and then made 5x his money? I just thought it interesting how one hand like this changed his tournament. Most of us would have been out. He knew the hands were all going to go to a showdown and figured he was going to lose. Worked out for him in this case.

By the way, he always leaves his wife 10% of whatever he wins at the Hard Rock. This time she got around $30,000.

[dmk]

my head hurts