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Re: Play for 2nd or play to win?
very easy shove against somewhat good players. if they are both bad i guess limping is okay but id never do it
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Re: Play for 2nd or play to win?
i also think most people in this thread are overvaluing knocking out 3rd and undervaluing picking up 600 chips
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Re: Play for 2nd or play to win?
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i also think most people in this thread are overvaluing knocking out 3rd and undervaluing picking up 600 chips [/ QUOTE ] There is so little value in the 600 chips here that winning the hand there shouldn't be a goal. Limping 200 to see a flop or see SB shove his remaining 400 in is worth the 10% or your stack. If BB shoves, so be it. You don't have to call, and shorty is already AI (or should be). Getting H/U on this hand is your goal, not winning chips. |
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Re: Play for 2nd or play to win?
easiest limp ever.....
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I limp here too and hope it gets checked down where I have the winner.
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Re: Play for 2nd or play to win?
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[ QUOTE ] i also think most people in this thread are overvaluing knocking out 3rd and undervaluing picking up 600 chips [/ QUOTE ] There is so little value in the 600 chips here that winning the hand there shouldn't be a goal. Limping 200 to see a flop or see SB shove his remaining 400 in is worth the 10% or your stack. If BB shoves, so be it. You don't have to call, and shorty is already AI (or should be). Getting H/U on this hand is your goal, not winning chips. [/ QUOTE ] using sngwiz, and with SB calling 100% i cant get this to be worse than a +.75% edge no matter what BB calls with. with SB on 74% and BB call1% at 28% i cant get it worse than +.82% no matter what call2% is. so yea its a matter of if limping is better than pushing. but i dont think you can pass up an edge of almost 1%, especially since this isnt sngpt and overcalls are already factored in. unless im using sngwiz wrong it looks like a push |
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Re: Play for 2nd or play to win?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i also think most people in this thread are overvaluing knocking out 3rd and undervaluing picking up 600 chips [/ QUOTE ] There is so little value in the 600 chips here that winning the hand there shouldn't be a goal. Limping 200 to see a flop or see SB shove his remaining 400 in is worth the 10% or your stack. If BB shoves, so be it. You don't have to call, and shorty is already AI (or should be). Getting H/U on this hand is your goal, not winning chips. [/ QUOTE ] using sngwiz, and with SB calling 100% i cant get this to be worse than a +.75% edge no matter what BB calls with. with SB on 74% and BB call1% at 28% i cant get it worse than +.82% no matter what call2% is. so yea its a matter of if limping is better than pushing. but i dont think you can pass up an edge of almost 1%, especially since this isnt sngpt and overcalls are already factored in. unless im using sngwiz wrong it looks like a push [/ QUOTE ] wherever I set on sngwiz , it tells me fold. What numbers are you setting? |
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uh.. the numbers i said i set...
like SB call1% on 75%, BB call1% on 30% and call2% on 25% gives you a +.8% push, right? |
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Re: Play for 2nd or play to win?
I didnt set chip equity mode.
SB 100% BB 100% Is a push , I think Im doing something wrong. It has not sense |
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I didnt set chip equity mode. SB 100% BB 100% Is a push , I think Im doing something wrong. It has not sense [/ QUOTE ] you shouldnt be in chip equity mode i dont think. i dont know how to change the stuff im just in the default. which is $EV not cEV im assuming |
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