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Old 11-30-2007, 12:44 PM
JH1 JH1 is offline
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Default Re: Playing Limit

OK, I think I sort of got the hang of this today, after 300 hands so far on 2 tables, I'm at 12.5BB/100. This is the biggest pot I won, I am probably limping into pots that I should be raising, but I'm still a little unsure what to do on the flop if I miss and OOP. That's why I limped in here:

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
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Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB checks

Flop: (6.4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls

Turn: (6.2 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="red">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="red">UTG+2 caps</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls

River: (18.2 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, <font color="red">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="red">Hero caps</font>, UTG+2 calls, UTG calls

Results: 30.2 BB Pot (1 BB Rake)

Is my play here correct considering implied odds for calling the cap on the turn? My thinking was that they were probably both quite a bit ahead of me, but if I caught I spade I could get at least 2 bets out of both of them.

Edit: accidentally posted results, I win obviously.
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:42 PM
pzhon pzhon is offline
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Default Re: Playing Limit

While you won a huge pot, you made two plays that I think were expensive mistakes, on average.

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CO posts
Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB checks

Flop: (6.4 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls


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You should be raising, at least preflop and at the second opportunity on the flop. You have a big equity advantage on these streets, and you will be called.

Preflop, you have an excellent hand, AQs, that does particularly well when no one else has shown strength, and the pot is likely to be multiway. The CO posted. In that situation, I would raise KJs for value, and maybe QJs.

On the flop, you have a flush draw and two overcards. That is often a favorite over top pair, and it usually wins far more than par in a multiway pot. You may prefer to call the first time if you think raising will knock too many people out of this small pot, but you can raise for value the second time, when the pot is larger and people are tied to it.
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