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Old 11-27-2007, 04:46 PM
Mondogarage Mondogarage is offline
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So sad, I dont really know why but I was really suprised/sad when I heard this in the morning. I guess I just imagined the whole situation, knowing that people are basically hunting you, willing/wanting to kill you, able to get in your house, and for no reason that we currently know. The police will hopefully find something out, but this looks like it was the work of people that had done this many times before, making Taylor look like he was up to no good at some point.

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I think this is the key point here. Whatever else happened, unless the girlfriend is making up the whole story, this is 100% a professional hit and not a simple robbery. That, in turn, means Taylor was not clean. It's sad, and I'm as sorry a 24 year old making millions died in the prime of his life as any poker player/NFL fan, but, plainly, this is about something more than a robbery gone bad.

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I didn't realize professional hitmen missed on 50% of their shots and went for the groin/thigh area.

This is a sad moment, because all evidence points to Sean Taylor having really grown up and matured over the last year or so, and had gone far from the knucklehead days of his earliest NFL career.

But there is no evidence pointing to a "professional hit" at all, and no evidence contradicting anything the girlfriend is reported to have said, and any wild ass speculation is, at this point, complete and total conjecture.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:58 PM
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I didn't realize professional hitmen missed on 50% of their shots and went for the groin/thigh area.

This is a sad moment, because all evidence points to Sean Taylor having really grown up and matured over the last year or so, and had gone far from the knucklehead days of his earliest NFL career.

But there is no evidence pointing to a "professional hit" at all, and no evidence contradicting anything the girlfriend is reported to have said, and any wild ass speculation is, at this point, complete and total conjecture.

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I don't think a professional hitman was necessarily involved. In fact, it's much more likely to be people he knew, maybe an old member of his posse before he actually grew up. Some of those guys don't take rejection lightly.

The fact is that when somebody breaks into your house, takes nothing or at least not much ("rifling through drawers"? meh) and leaves a knife on the bed, we aren't talking about a robbery. The guy coming back and shooting him is just confirmation at this point - he likely already knew he was in some serious trouble. If anything, the sad part is that because he was already on probation for gun charges, he couldn't really defend himself and, I guess, didn't have enough security around him to make up for it.

Anyway, enough about this; I'm sorry the guy's dead and it's a sad day for the NFL/fans.
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:05 PM
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I didn't realize professional hitmen missed on 50% of their shots and went for the groin/thigh area.

This is a sad moment, because all evidence points to Sean Taylor having really grown up and matured over the last year or so, and had gone far from the knucklehead days of his earliest NFL career.

But there is no evidence pointing to a "professional hit" at all, and no evidence contradicting anything the girlfriend is reported to have said, and any wild ass speculation is, at this point, complete and total conjecture.

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I don't think a professional hitman was necessarily involved. In fact, it's much more likely to be people he knew, maybe an old member of his posse before he actually grew up. Some of those guys don't take rejection lightly.

The fact is that when somebody breaks into your house, takes nothing or at least not much ("rifling through drawers"? meh) and leaves a knife on the bed, we aren't talking about a robbery. The guy coming back and shooting him is just confirmation at this point - he likely already knew he was in some serious trouble. If anything, the sad part is that because he was already on probation for gun charges, he couldn't really defend himself and, I guess, didn't have enough security around him to make up for it.

Anyway, enough about this; I'm sorry the guy's dead and it's a sad day for the NFL/fans.

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Dude,
That is such wild and unnecessary speculation and frankly, stereotyping. Because he was young, black, rich he must have had members of his posse who wanted a piece. He grew up in a middle class family in a good neighborhood with a cop as a father. He wasnt a gangbanger that got lifted out by his athletic abilities. By all accounts it sounds as if Sean was a nice and humble young man. I really hope I am taking your post wrong.
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:10 PM
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You're definitely taking it wrong [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

yeah, seriously, my bad for posting this, I'd rather not hijack the thread any further. my apologies.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:30 PM
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Couldn't it be that someone broke in planning on robbing them and then freaked and ran after shooting him?
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:34 PM
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but apparently Taylor likes spitting on people.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:53 PM
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Couldn't it be that someone broke in planning on robbing them and then freaked and ran after shooting him?

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Of course its possible, but cutting phone lines and not stealing anything and clearly being willing to shoot on first chance add up to a probable assassination. That is all that I said but apparently that really upset people. Taylor's family also has said that they think it was an intentional attempt to hurt/kill Taylor. I dont understand why people are arguing against this, we obviously know that it might not be the case, you dont need to write it out.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:59 PM
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I've heard on local DC news that the phone lines were not cut, but rather the phones were not working and had not been working before the murder occurred. This is according to Taylor's attorney Richard Sharpstein.
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Old 11-28-2007, 11:41 AM
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Couldn't it be that someone broke in planning on robbing them and then freaked and ran after shooting him?

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Of course its possible, but cutting phone lines and not stealing anything and clearly being willing to shoot on first chance add up to a probable assassination. That is all that I said but apparently that really upset people. Taylor's family also has said that they think it was an intentional attempt to hurt/kill Taylor. I dont understand why people are arguing against this, we obviously know that it might not be the case, you dont need to write it out.

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If it was an "assassination" then why did the assassin only shoot him once, in the leg and then leave? I just don't see the point of jumping to a conclusion based on what little knowledge we have of what went down.
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:13 PM
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I didn't realize professional hitmen missed on 50% of their shots and went for the groin/thigh area.

This is a sad moment, because all evidence points to Sean Taylor having really grown up and matured over the last year or so, and had gone far from the knucklehead days of his earliest NFL career.

But there is no evidence pointing to a "professional hit" at all, and no evidence contradicting anything the girlfriend is reported to have said, and any wild ass speculation is, at this point, complete and total conjecture.

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I don't think a professional hitman was necessarily involved. In fact, it's much more likely to be people he knew, maybe an old member of his posse before he actually grew up. Some of those guys don't take rejection lightly.

The fact is that when somebody breaks into your house, takes nothing or at least not much ("rifling through drawers"? meh) and leaves a knife on the bed, we aren't talking about a robbery. The guy coming back and shooting him is just confirmation at this point - he likely already knew he was in some serious trouble. If anything, the sad part is that because he was already on probation for gun charges, he couldn't really defend himself and, I guess, didn't have enough security around him to make up for it.

Anyway, enough about this; I'm sorry the guy's dead and it's a sad day for the NFL/fans.

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Dude,
That is such wild and unnecessary speculation and frankly, stereotyping. Because he was young, black, rich he must have had members of his posse who wanted a piece. He grew up in a middle class family in a good neighborhood with a cop as a father. He wasnt a gangbanger that got lifted out by his athletic abilities. By all accounts it sounds as if Sean was a nice and humble young man. I really hope I am taking your post wrong.

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It doesnt have to be a gangbanger or anything like that. Just a dude who maybe Sean used to hang out with and decided to stop hanging out with and lost it. 2 things dont make a lot of sense and seem to point to an irrational person.

1) Why break in and take nothing, but leave a knife in the bed?

2) Why shoot the groin?

It sounds like a person who wanted to hang out with Sean and didnt take rejection too well. It doesnt sound like the guy wanted to kill Sean because he wouldnt have been shooting at the lower region if he did. He just got unlucky.

I think its the same as the Conan case. I mean look at the priest who was arrested for stalking Conan O'Brian. I am pretty sure no one involved in that case was a gangbanger, but I am pretty sure the guy arrested was nuts and might have hurt Conan if Conan would have told him he didnt want to hang out.
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