The Answer - DN

[Your Mom]

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Daniel N. is getting a divorce.

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Caught rogering his houseboy, obviously.

Seriously, aren't Christians supposed to have rules about this kind of thing? His post just seems to imply that they're just kind of fed up with each other, so it's time to move on.

I'm not in any way opposed to divorce, there's no kids that they should stay together for, and I'm an atheist myself so what do I know, but this really does seem typical of the modern North American approach to Christianity. Embrace the rules while they suit you, then drop them just as soon as they become inconvenient and start getting in the way of the things that you really want to do.

Reminds me of Newt Gingrich, who dumped his wife for a younger model while she was on her sickbed, dying of cancer. Not that Daniel is doing anything so cruel. Rather, that both of them have been espousing a set of values that they don't appear to genuinely embrace.

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The part I found interesting was that they both had agreed that they had tried their best.

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Dude, they've only been married for two years. I've had *arguments* with my wife that lasted longer than that.

While I don't believe that people should stay together and be miserable, if you're genuinely committed to a relationship, you stick in there and work at it even when things don't seem to be working. Because the relationship is more important than the other, trivial stuff that's getting in the way.

Daniel's blog is very nice and respectful, but I think it's also somewhat dishonest insofar as I don't believe it's telling us what the real reasons for his divorce are. Now, it's none of our business anyway, and he may not even know himself, but in my experience this 'we've grown apart' business tends to be a euphemism for one of two things:

a.) I want somebody else, or
b.) I hate your guts

Finally, I think it's a little weird discussing someone else's divorce in this way, but if he puts his private business out there for public discussion, it doesn't seem unreasonable to speculate and pontificate.

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I agree. A lot of people don't know what "working hard at it" means.

[Vince.]

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Daniel N. is getting a divorce.

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Caught rogering his houseboy, obviously.

Seriously, aren't Christians supposed to have rules about this kind of thing? His post just seems to imply that they're just kind of fed up with each other, so it's time to move on.

I'm not in any way opposed to divorce, there's no kids that they should stay together for, and I'm an atheist myself so what do I know, but this really does seem typical of the modern North American approach to Christianity. Embrace the rules while they suit you, then drop them just as soon as they become inconvenient and start getting in the way of the things that you really want to do.

Reminds me of Newt Gingrich, who dumped his wife for a younger model while she was on her sickbed, dying of cancer. Not that Daniel is doing anything so cruel. Rather, that both of them have been espousing a set of values that they don't appear to genuinely embrace.

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The part I found interesting was that they both had agreed that they had tried their best.

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Dude, they've only been married for two years. I've had *arguments* with my wife that lasted longer than that.

While I don't believe that people should stay together and be miserable, if you're genuinely committed to a relationship, you stick in there and work at it even when things don't seem to be working. Because the relationship is more important than the other, trivial stuff that's getting in the way.

Daniel's blog is very nice and respectful, but I think it's also somewhat dishonest insofar as I don't believe it's telling us what the real reasons for his divorce are. Now, it's none of our business anyway, and he may not even know himself, but in my experience this 'we've grown apart' business tends to be a euphemism for one of two things:

a.) I want somebody else, or
b.) I hate your guts

Finally, I think it's a little weird discussing someone else's divorce in this way, but if he puts his private business out there for public discussion, it doesn't seem unreasonable to speculate and pontificate.

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I agree. A lot of people don't know what "working hard at it" means.

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If two people know they aren't right for each other and find that their relationship is more of a friendship than love, then why continue? You can't force yourself to love someone no matter how hard you work at it. I give props to Daniel for handling it the way he did, it's not easy.

[yimyammer]

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Daniel N. is getting a divorce.

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Caught rogering his houseboy, obviously.

Seriously, aren't Christians supposed to have rules about this kind of thing? His post just seems to imply that they're just kind of fed up with each other, so it's time to move on.

I'm not in any way opposed to divorce, there's no kids that they should stay together for, and I'm an atheist myself so what do I know, but this really does seem typical of the modern North American approach to Christianity. Embrace the rules while they suit you, then drop them just as soon as they become inconvenient and start getting in the way of the things that you really want to do.

Reminds me of Newt Gingrich, who dumped his wife for a younger model while she was on her sickbed, dying of cancer. Not that Daniel is doing anything so cruel. Rather, that both of them have been espousing a set of values that they don't appear to genuinely embrace.

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The part I found interesting was that they both had agreed that they had tried their best.

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Dude, they've only been married for two years. I've had *arguments* with my wife that lasted longer than that.

While I don't believe that people should stay together and be miserable, if you're genuinely committed to a relationship, you stick in there and work at it even when things don't seem to be working. Because the relationship is more important than the other, trivial stuff that's getting in the way.

Daniel's blog is very nice and respectful, but I think it's also somewhat dishonest insofar as I don't believe it's telling us what the real reasons for his divorce are. Now, it's none of our business anyway, and he may not even know himself, but in my experience this 'we've grown apart' business tends to be a euphemism for one of two things:

a.) I want somebody else, or
b.) I hate your guts

Finally, I think it's a little weird discussing someone else's divorce in this way, but if he puts his private business out there for public discussion, it doesn't seem unreasonable to speculate and pontificate.

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LOL, funny stuff

BTW, I've never met a dumb aetheist (& I'm not saying you are, just an interesting observation)

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I know divorce in our society is considered no big deal, especially when no kids are involved. But in Christianity there's basically no acceptable reason to break a sacred vow you gave before God and your peers (and DN's a Christian). Especially if the break up was happy and amicable as he describes it. If it's serious enough to break that vow there should have been broken glass, someone should have cheated on someone, blood, screaming etc.

[Hotel Detect]

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I know divorce in our society is considered no big deal, especially when no kids are involved. But in Christianity there's basically no acceptable reason to break a sacred vow you gave before God and your peers (and DN's a Christian). Especially if the break up was happy and amicable as he describes it. If it's serious enough to break that vow there should have been broken glass, someone should have cheated on someone, blood, screaming etc.

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Not everyone that considers themself Christian follows strict Catholic (or even Protestant) doctrine. Daniel strikes me as someone who tries to follow the general teachings of Jesus and handles the rest on his own.

[Loce]

Impressive. I wish I was able to break up in such a nice way. Not a single bad word and no room left for negative gossip by the media. Nice guy.

[Rampage_Jackson]

Didn't he break up with Evelyn Nug in a similar peaceful manner. Something doesn't make sense. I've never heard of a couple who divorces with no fight or atleast no tears.

[heater]

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Daniel N. is getting a divorce.

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Things will get better for you Daniel.

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What a [censored] attention whore.

[IvanXDurham]

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with lines as smooth as this, im sure you have the fight the women off with a stick.

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LMFAO

"She's waaay out of your leaue, Gareth" ---Tim
"Not true, but besides, I don't do sloppy seconds"---Gareth
"See, it's phrases like 'sloppy seconds' that make her out of your league, mate"---Tim

[Ramon Scott]

That was my first thought when he mentioned important blog coming.