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Old 12-24-2006, 07:20 PM
moira moira is offline
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Default 1-2 NL: Call - This is wrong, right?

Just sat down at the table.
I think preflop is a call. but flop is a fold. Right?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($364.16)
Hero ($210.70)
Button ($57.85)
SB ($186.25)
BB ($414.75)
UTG ($415.85)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, MP calls $8, Hero calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $18, MP calls $18, Hero calls $18.

Flop: ($106) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB calls $185.25 (All-In), <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $320.5</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $210.70 (All-In).

Turn: ($822.45) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($822.45) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $822.45
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Old 12-24-2006, 07:24 PM
JonnyCosMo JonnyCosMo is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL: Call - This is wrong, right?

Wrong because it's not the nut flush. If the SB has AX of spades you are dead in the water sir.
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Old 12-24-2006, 07:40 PM
bet2win bet2win is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL: Call - This is wrong, right?

I'd fold since its likely one might be on a spade draw as well and your KQ outs arent good so your equity goes way down and of course if one has an Ace high flush you are drawing dead. A set vs lower spade draw is pretty bad also.
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Old 12-24-2006, 07:42 PM
Kilillan Kilillan is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL: Call - This is wrong, right?

IF you had the nut draw maybe.

If one of them has the nut draw and one of them has a set you're dead.
If one of them has a set and overpair you're not drawing all that live.
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Old 12-24-2006, 07:47 PM
SweetSchollen SweetSchollen is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL: Call - This is wrong, right?

fold preflop
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Old 12-24-2006, 07:59 PM
SEABEAST SEABEAST is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL: Call - This is wrong, right?

Pretty sick spot. I ran a pokerstove giving SB JJ+ and UTG 66, 44, 22, and 56ss-AJss, and you had 26% equity. I guess that makes this a very marginal fold. Preflop is very marginal too. Your reverse implied odds are pretty bad in a 4 way pot with that hand. I think it's a begrudging fold at all points.
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Old 12-24-2006, 11:38 PM
dchz dchz is offline
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Default Re: 1-2 NL: Call - This is wrong, right?

this is one of those spots wher eyou can't play a big pot unless you have the nuts if youc all PF, and i'd call here with AXs any day, but you don't hav eht enut draw, this is really -EV IMO
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