My poker database has me convinced...

[MicroBob]

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should be xposted to small stakes mebbe most likely the players ive played against are there.

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No, do not waste their time by x-posting this.
Nobody is really taking this seriously anyway.
You are being nice enough about your "it's rigged" claims and somewhat intelligent about it so we're just kind of curious to see this supposed evidence that you think you have.

The idea that Party set it up for everybody to play crazy against each other in Jan but then turned the switch off in Feb is pretty laughable.
But that doesn't mean we'll look at what you have...most likely to explain why your theory is flawed or whatever.

But since nobody could possibly read the excel spreadsheet from the image-shack you posted this kind of dialogue can't happen.

I guess you need to try again.
But it's no biggie as I'm really not that dying of curiousity to see all these amazing pocket-pairs you got.

[OnlinePro]

After playing live poker these past 4 days. I once again thought to myself, why did I waste my time playing online poker.

Whether it is rigged or not rigged, there is no point playing online if you live near casino or play high enough stakes where you can take a trip once a month to Vegas or Los angles.

Good luck to you Microbob and your never ending DEFENSE of online poker. I really find it fishy when certain people relentlessly defend online poker without even taking a second to realize all the motives an online poker website would have in altering the games.

I have never stated that the games ARE indeed altered, but I have always said it is very possible that they are. The reason you refuse to beleive any of this is because online poker is your only hope in life and your seeing it slowly diminish.

[Phil153]

Here are the OP's hands in the proper form (he posted the thumbnails)


edit: These look totally and insanely outside the realm of normal probability. Briefly looking at the AKo stats, they're at least 6 standard deviations from the mean. I'll post a proper analysis shortly.

Thanks for providing the screenshots. I'm curious why the totals don't add up to 26,000 though?

[_Towelie_]

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After playing live poker these past 4 days. I once again thought to myself, why did I waste my time playing online poker.

Whether it is rigged or not rigged, there is no point playing online if you live near casino or play high enough stakes where you can take a trip once a month to Vegas or Los angles.

Good luck to you Microbob and your never ending DEFENSE of online poker. I really find it fishy when certain people relentlessly defend online poker without even taking a second to realize all the motives an online poker website would have in altering the games.

I have never stated that the games ARE indeed altered, but I have always said it is very possible that they are. The reason you refuse to beleive any of this is because online poker is your only hope in life and your seeing it slowly diminish.

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Jesus Christ you are one bitter [censored].

[stompin]

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Here are the OP's hands in the proper form (he posted the thumbnails)


The first two look within normal variance. The third looks insane. I'll post a proper analysis shortly.

Thanks for providing the screenshots.

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Thanks for reposting.

note: in the first screenshot im showing just suited connectors, which all came in way more than the expected 78 times.

for the pocket pocket pairs hey all came in high as well. we'd expect 118 on average but every pocket pair came in above 215. AA vs 22 doesnt look to bad but thats only becuase they both came way too often.

If you want to see the spreadsheet I could send it to you.

[Phil153]

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You would have to have 500,00 to 1,000,000 hands to be statistically meaningful. Same for cards dealt on flop, turn and river.
I have seen stats from Poker Stars like this that show their RNG gives results close to the actual odds.

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Wrong. A statistical anomaly is a statical anomaly. If something is 10 standard deviations out from the mean over more than 10000 hands, that's plenty of evidence.

[pokerchap]

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We all know that Full Tilt is the only rigged site out there.

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sooooo true. I really do not understand how people go against this... kind of makes me angry. The regs on that site don't even freak out when they get 7 sets on 7 hands all busted

[stompin]

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Here are the OP's hands in the proper form (he posted the thumbnails)


edit: These look totally and insanely outside the realm of normal probability. Briefly looking at the AKo stats, they're at least 6 standard deviations from the mean. I'll post a proper analysis shortly.

Thanks for providing the screenshots. I'm curious why the totals don't add up to 26,000 though?

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Thats not all the hands, they are filtered to show just PP's suited connectors and non-suited. SO I guess its missing suited non-connectors. I can email you the whole dataset PM me if interested.

[Phil153]

Well, I can't do analysis, because my binomial calculator doesn't go to more than 6 decimal places, and I'm not doing it by hand. The guys in the probability forum have stat packages to do a definitive analysis, and more credibility than me. Suffice to say, these numbers are absolute proof of rigging if OP hasn't fudged anything.

Can someone else check January's numbers (I play Omaha)? There should be approximately 9 offsuit hands (i.e. AKo) per 1000 hands, 3 suited per 1000, and 4.5 pairs. If the numbers are way off, please post.

[J_B]

It does look like the pocket pairs are almost 2x what they should be. If you get 1 AA for every 225 hands, he should have been dealt it approx. 116 times. I don't think this is within any standard deviation.

I noticed myself that it seemed as if I was being dealt PP's more than I should have been last week. I dismissed it though.