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Old 09-12-2007, 11:54 PM
Bond18 Bond18 is offline
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Default Stars 109 KK hand

Villain is 33/18/1.9 over 100 hands. How's this all look?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t4160
UTG+1: t2710
MP1: t2935
Hero: t3805
MP3: t2780
CO: t3495
Button: t1830
SB: t1995
BB: t5260

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t300</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls t300 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t450)</font>, 3 folds.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t750, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t450</font>, CO calls t450 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1200)</font>.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t1650, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets t800</font>, Hero calls t800 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t2450)</font>.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t3250, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO is all-in t1945</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t1945 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: t3250
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:06 AM
Mench Mench is offline
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Default Re: Stars 109 KK hand

Yeah I like it, I don't think a donk turns 68, 8T, random pair into a bluff enough on the river even if he was stabbing the turn. And, by the river you don't beat anything he is betting for value. I probably play it the same.

Though what about crai on the turn so that he can decide we don't have an ace and call off with 9T. Is that just bad?
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: Stars 109 KK hand

I like it call if the river isnt a 9
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:59 AM
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Default Re: Stars 109 KK hand

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I like it call if the river isnt a 9

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Agreed. The A isn't THAT big a problem since he's not floating AQ/AK that often here and there's less combos of AK possible.
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: Stars 109 KK hand

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I like it call if the river isnt a 9

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? you really think he bets the turn w/ a 9 a lot?
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:09 AM
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Default Re: Stars 109 KK hand

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I like it call if the river isnt a 9

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? you really think he bets the turn w/ a 9 a lot?

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my thots exactly
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109 KK hand

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I like it call if the river isnt a 9

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? you really think he bets the turn w/ a 9 a lot?

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I think randoms bet when checked to with lots of weird stuff.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: Stars 109 KK hand

Very interesting hand. I call pretty quickly, like you alluded to if the river is a non 9.

I think the fold is good here though it is definitely close.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:35 PM
JMSlick JMSlick is offline
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Default Re: Stars 109 KK hand

Interesting... I am wondering if he might have TT, JJ or QQ here. The 9 is concerning. The way the hand is being played suggests to me he may be afraid of the ace rather than liking it. But perhaps he wants you to think that... Basically I've no clue.. Difficult to call imho.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Stars 109 KK hand

I'm curious as to why didn't you lead the turn if your plan was to call an 800-ish bet? You're the pf raiser who c-bet a rag flop. I think most players in position holding a 9 or bigger pair woulda popped the c-bet. But checking the A gives you no idea where you are in the hand. Assuming a safe river, were you hoping for a check/check showdown?
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