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Cry Me A River · #**2601** 08-24-2007, 12:43 PM

Obv not going to be a boring day!

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $37.35
BB: $87.55
UTG: $105.95
Hero (UTG+1): $99.45
MP1: $134.15
MP2: $44.35
CO: $100.00
BTN: $134.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $4.00, 3 folds, BTN calls $4.00, SB folds, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($12.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10.00, BTN folds, BB calls $10.00

Turn: ($32.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($32.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $30.00, Hero raises all-in to $85.45, BB calls all-in for $43.55
Uncalled bet of $11.90 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $179.60 ($3 Rake)

BB had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$87.55)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Tens full of Aces) and WON (+$89.05)

rdrr · #**2602** 08-24-2007, 01:18 PM

[img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] looking back this is a snapcall because of how stupid villain's line looks right? (i.e., is this some stupid flush draw more often than AK+?)

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $69.20
BB: $98.50
UTG: $43.50
UTG+1: $97.00
MP: $126.00
CO: $83.90
Hero (BTN): $104.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 Players)
4 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, SB folds, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($8.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $1.00, Hero raises to $9.00, BB raises all-in to $94.50, Hero folds

coordi · #**2603** 08-24-2007, 01:22 PM

donk to open shove is my favorite move to look like a FD when I have teh nuts.

Cry Me A River · #**2604** 08-24-2007, 01:28 PM

Lovely...

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $59.35
BB: $50.00
UTG: $48.00
UTG+1: $94.20
Hero (MP1): $50.00
MP2: $37.70
MP3: $35.60
CO: $68.80
BTN: $54.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 calls $0.50, 3 folds, BB raises to $2.50, UTG+1 calls $2.00, Hero calls $2.00, MP2 calls $2.00, MP3 calls $2.00

Flop: ($12.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $10.00, MP2 raises to $34.00, 3 folds, Hero raises all-in to $47.50, MP2 calls all-in for $1.20
Uncalled bet of $12.30 returned to Hero

Turn: ($83.15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($83.15) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $83.15 ($3 Rake)

MP2 had 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Queens full of Eights) and WON (+$42.45)
Hero had 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Fours full of Queens) and LOST (-$37.70)

diebitter · #**2605** 08-24-2007, 01:30 PM

This thread

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post11805155

in limit->no limit has a great post by The Grunch about where the money comes from in TAG vs LAG play.

1p0kerboy · #**2606** 08-24-2007, 01:36 PM

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Now that's funny!

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $114.25
BB: $105.80
UTG: $51.50
UTG+1: $113.35
MP1: $93.50
MP2: $78.35
MP3: $46.40
CO: $125.45
Hero (BTN): $98.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
2 folds, MP1 raises to $3.00, MP2 calls $3.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $13.00, 3 folds, MP2 calls $10.00

Flop: ($30.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP2 bets $10.00, Hero raises to $45.00, MP2 raises all-in to $65.35, Hero calls $20.35

Turn: ($161.20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($161.20) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $161.20 ($3 Rake)

MP2 had 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Threes) and WON (+$79.85)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$78.35)

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I put 'em on two high cards, no pairs.

rdrr · #**2607** 08-24-2007, 01:40 PM

0/5 in flips and 0/2 in 80/20s against shortstacks today, no joke. That's -$222 in all-in equity right there assuming they're each $20 stacks. Lovely.

1p0kerboy · #**2608** 08-24-2007, 01:48 PM

DB- good post by Grunch. Thanks for sharing it with us.

My favorite part was

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There isn't just one style of no-limit play that works; although in reading the 2p2 no-limit forums you might get the idea that there is only one "right" style.

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And it's true even on more levels not addressed by Grunch in that particular post.

I'm playing a different style this month than I have all year. And it's working. But as a result I can't post here as much anymore because I take a lot of lines that aren't recommended by the community based on the style of game which most here play.

Note also that Dan Harrington, in HOH1, first noted that there are several ways to win at this game.

diebitter · #**2609** 08-24-2007, 01:52 PM

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DB- good post by Grunch. Thanks for sharing it with us.

My favorite part was

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There isn't just one style of no-limit play that works; although in reading the 2p2 no-limit forums you might get the idea that there is only one "right" style.

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And it's true even on more levels not addressed by Grunch in that particular post.

I'm playing a different style this month than I have all year. And it's working. But as a result I can't post here as much anymore because I take a lot of lines that aren't recommended by the community based on the style of game which most here play.

Note also that Dan Harrington, in HOH1, first noted that there are several ways to win at this game.

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Ay, I have played what he called 'superaggressive' I think, where position and whois in become secondary to seeing lots of flops relatively cheap and concentrating on the postflop only - and there ain't that many people that play it and aren't maniac spewers (hell, my bad sessions looks like maniac spew, but good sessions are $$$$$$$$$$$$$).

GrandMelon · #**2610** 08-24-2007, 01:55 PM

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[img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] looking back this is a snapcall because of how stupid villain's line looks right? (i.e., is this some stupid flush draw more often than AK+?)

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $69.20
BB: $98.50
UTG: $43.50
UTG+1: $97.00
MP: $126.00
CO: $83.90
Hero (BTN): $104.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 Players)
4 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, SB folds, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($8.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $1.00, Hero raises to $9.00, BB raises all-in to $94.50, Hero folds

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raise flop more and please call that shove