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Old 03-06-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Rotten Tomatoes Best Of The Best Pictures

If you can't find something to disagree with on this list, then you aren't paying attention. My stomach churmed on the way some of these rankings turned out. But this is what happens when you don't compare the movies to each other, you just rate them separately, then let a computer sort them out.

The complete list with comments is here:
Best Of The Best Pictures

80. The Greatest Show on Earth
79. Cimarron
78. The Broadway Melody
77. Cavalcade
76. The Great Ziegfeld
75. Crash
74. The Life of Emile Zola
73. Forrest Gump
72. Around the World in 80 Days
71. A Beautiful Mind
70. Gladiator
69. Dances with Wolves
68. Braveheart
67. Out of Africa
66. Going My Way
65. Driving Miss Daisy
64. Gigi
63. The Sound of Music
62. Tom Jones
61. Titanic
60. A Man for All Seasons
59. Mrs. Miniver
58. Grand Hotel
57. Chariots of Fire
56. Oliver!
55. Chicago
54. The English Patient
53. How Green Was My Valley
52. From Here to Eternity
51. Ordinary People
50. Gentleman's Agreement
49. Gandhi
48. The Apartment
47. Platoon
46. The Last Emperor
45. The Deer Hunter
44. Midnight Cowboy
43. American Beauty
42. Terms of Endearment
41. Ben-Hur
40. Rain Man
39. Kramer Vs. Kramer
38. Million Dollar Baby
37. Rocky
36. My Fair Lady
35. You Can't Take It With You
34. Hamlet
33. Shakespeare in Love
32. The Bridge on the River Kwai
31. The Lost Weekend
30. The Departed
29. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
28. All the King's Men
27. All Quiet on the Western Front
26. Mutiny on the Bounty
25. In the Heat of the Night
24. The Sting
23. The Best Years of Our Lives
22. Silence of the Lambs
21. It Happened One Night
20. West Side Story
19. Patton
18. Unforgiven
17. Schindler's List
16. Gone With the Wind
15. The French Connection
14. Amadeus
13. Wings
12. An American in Paris
11. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
10. Annie Hall
9. The Godfather Part II
8. Casablanca
7. Lawrence of Arabia
6. Marty
5. Rebecca
4. Sunrise
3. All About Eve
2. On the Waterfront
1. The Godfather
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Rotten Tomatoes Best Of The Best Pictures

i think part of the problem is that the RT rating are inherently flawed in some way...what that is, i'm not sure, but they just don't "feel" right

Marty seems awfully high. i love it to death, but 6th?
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Rotten Tomatoes Best Of The Best Pictures

I was trying to figure out the same thing and "Marty" caught my eye as well. Great film that not many people see, but how did it get so high? And how did "Schindler's List" wind up 17th, when I thought it was a sure bet for the Top 10?

I think the problem lies in that RT overweights the haters. If no one dislikes a picture, and all the top pictures are 100% and really close in votes, they do well. You get one or two guys with a bug up their ass, as two guys do about Spielberg, and you get way dropped in rankings.

I also have a hard time believing most of the BP winners in the last 20 years deserve to be in the bottom of the rankings, yet somehow "The Last Emperor" winds up #46. This is why mechanical ratings systems don't work, and one of the reasons I posted the list. No serious film goer can possibly take this list seriously, at top or bottom. It got many things right, but there are so many WTF flaws it's hilarious. "Lord of the Rings:Return of the King" better than "Bridge On The River Kwai"? I don't think even Peter Jackson would claim that one.
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Rotten Tomatoes Best Of The Best Pictures

I think Marty and Rebbecca are too high. Same with The French Connection and Million Dollar Baby. Chicago and Gladiator are not worthy enough to be on the list. Maybe Forrest Gump too.

Also, you could take all the films from #20 to #60, mix them up in no particular order, and not effect the "accuracy" of the list.
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:47 PM
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i think RT uses a pretty binary system of ranking, either positive or negative (so, if you like it and i hate it...50%)

that strikes me as being a ridiculously stupid approach
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:54 PM
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here's how stupid:

critic A and critic B each grade the same films on a scale of 1-10...asume anything over 5 gets a yay vote on RT, anything below 5, a nay.

film 1
A: 2
B: 6
avg/RT: 4.0/50%

film 2
A: 4
B: 6
avg/RT: 5.0/50%

film 3
A: 10
B: 10
avg/RT: 10.0/100%

film 4
A: 6
B: 8
avg/RT: 7.0/100%

and we're supposed to believe films 1&2 and 3&4 are of equal merit?
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Rotten Tomatoes Best Of The Best Pictures

asnd where, pray tell, is Highlander, From Dusk Till Dawn and Army of Darkness? [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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Old 03-06-2007, 07:39 PM
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I'd have It Happened One Night in the top ten, but I love screwball comedy. Marty, On the Waterfront, and All about Eve are too high (although they're fine films). Ordinary People is vastly underrated. In addition, The Deer Hunter deserves a higher position.
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Old 03-06-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: Rotten Tomatoes Best Of The Best Pictures

Can anyone do this on Metacritic?
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Old 03-06-2007, 09:15 PM
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Can anyone do this on Metacritic?

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no. Metacritic pulls from a select few
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