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Old 11-14-2007, 12:05 PM
pokerscaresme pokerscaresme is offline
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Default $1 stars MTT - SB w/ JTs - 21 left

Poker Stars, $1 + $0.10 NL Hold'em Tournament, 1,500/3,000 Blinds, 7 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: 155,792
CO: 23,823
BTN: 18,424
Hero (SB): 27,187
BB: 54,438
UTG: 47,643
UTG+1: 64,423

Pre-Flop: (6,600) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls 3,000, 4 folds, Hero calls 1,500, BB checks

Flop: (11,100) J Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks

Turn: (11,100) 9 (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero Shoves?</font>

My gut said squeeze a bit..
but I called expecting to see a flop.
BB is eager to see any flop, so I could fold to a BB shove.
No reads on UTG.
How would you play this one?
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:35 PM
halpgr halpgr is offline
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Default Re: $1 stars MTT - SB w/ JTs - 21 left

You're too short to be limping in the SB with JTs. Shove or fold preflop. Shove is not bad as your stack is big enough to have FE against BB and the weak limper. If one folds to the shove and one calls then you have pretty good equity going in with the dead money.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:07 PM
4ObliVioN4 4ObliVioN4 is offline
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Default Re: $1 stars MTT - SB w/ JTs - 21 left

I don't mind completing pf since it only costs you half. That might be wrong though.

No reason to shove the turn here. Flop checked around, board is rainbow, nothing to be afraid of or any big draws to push out. Plus your shove is more than twice the pot, looks very odd. I would bet around 7k here and then have a very natural push on the river for like 19k that would be 2/3 pot or so.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:20 PM
EroTheMad EroTheMad is offline
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Default Re: $1 stars MTT - SB w/ JTs - 21 left

You have M=4. and still calling here? Playing draw hand OOP with 4 M stack sucks as hell. Shoot or fold pre-flop depending on your read on UTG.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: $1 stars MTT - SB w/ JTs - 21 left

check/call turn
check/call river (bet if turn is checked through)
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: $1 stars MTT - SB w/ JTs - 21 left

push preflop

as played follow sykes advice
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:53 PM
pokerscaresme pokerscaresme is offline
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Default Re: $1 stars MTT - SB w/ JTs - 21 left

Thank you, I'll just shove it next time.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: $1 stars MTT - SB w/ JTs - 21 left

check pm poker
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:04 PM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default Re: $1 stars MTT - SB w/ JTs - 21 left

Pushing Pre 100% of the time.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:09 PM
sapsuckah sapsuckah is offline
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Default Re: $1 stars MTT - SB w/ JTs - 21 left

[ QUOTE ]
You're too short to be limping in the SB with JTs. Shove or fold preflop. Shove is not bad as your stack is big enough to have FE against BB and the weak limper. If one folds to the shove and one calls then you have pretty good equity going in with the dead money.

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This is spot-on.

The turn is the really interesting spot though. I think Sykes' line (check-call) is good but I'm worried about not getting paid off enough now that I made my hand and everyone checked the flop. I'd bet 1/2 pot here, maybe even a bit less to induce a raise. If nobody calls, you likely weren't gonna make any more on this hand anyway.
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