Jacks on the river

Riku · #1 06-11-2007, 11:51 AM

Villain is 45/16/1.8 AF after 90 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 4 folds.

Flop: (5.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.70 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero calls.

River: (9.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero...

BigBadBabar · #2 06-11-2007, 11:53 AM

calls

KitCloudkicker · #3 06-11-2007, 11:54 AM

come this far, gotta call, tho your prob beat

Fadook · #4 06-11-2007, 11:56 AM

With a better read you could probably fold to the turn raise. Looks like he was slowplaying here. So tempted to call the river for curiosity's sake but I think it's a fold.

Bona · #5 06-11-2007, 12:02 PM

I think this is a fold. I think you are crushed by either the turn card or the river card, given his turn raise. While he might have raised the turn with AT, I don't see him raising the turn with A8 even if the A is a spade.

kerowo · #6 06-11-2007, 12:36 PM

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With a better read you could probably fold to the turn raise. Looks like he was slowplaying here. So tempted to call the river for curiosity's sake but I think it's a fold.

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What is your definition of slow play? Not capping the flop? Villain has shown strength almost every chance he has been given. This looks so much like a set or flush draw that I'm likely to be calling down from the turn.

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S · #7 06-11-2007, 12:38 PM

he has a flush

fold the turn or call the river

Guitierez · #8 06-11-2007, 12:43 PM

villains flop raise w/ position looks like a free card play.
the decision is to be made on the turn. i fold here giving him credit for a flush.

fretelöo · #9 06-11-2007, 12:44 PM

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fold the turn or call the river

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tehox · #10 06-11-2007, 12:52 PM

I remember I never used to fold the turn in these types of situtations. I think against tighter/more predicatble types of opponents you are going to be shwon a flush often enough to fold the turn. Against this type of opponent I probably pay off (though that is a lousy river card for us)