Quick guide to satellite qualifying for big events

[wiz_apprentice]

adanthar,

TY for writing such a great guide for playing in qualifying satellites.

[LearnedfromTV]

BUMP. More please.

If this bump doesn't get responses I'll throw some thoughts out there to spur it. But there are many opinions worth hearing before mine on this subject and it's pretty topical right now. Satellite experts, speak up!

- Clueless satellite player who recently realized he'll have enough time off to play the Main Event.

[Bigdaddydvo]

Here's my advice, FWIW.

I qualified for the WSOP ME for '05 and last night for '06 via Stars Double Shootout. Last year I hit a heater, made 3 straight FTs, and got in on the last one. This year, it took me about 10-11 tries to finally get it (with 3 FT's)

That said, THE VERY BEST WSOP Double Shootouts to play are the weekend variety that have the massive feeder 5.50 Turbo Rebuy feeders that fill up 60 or so of the 81 seats. Many of these players stumble into the DS and spaz all over themselves when they get there. Playing against these weaker players enables you to accumulate chips more quickly and give you a better shot at moving on. Even at the Final Table there are some satelite fish that find their way there. All 3 of my DS FT's this year were on the weekends. This is contrasted with the weeknight DS's that have only about 20 players fed from the 5.50 Rebuys. The other 61 that sign up are putting up $160 themselves, which increases the liklihood of competent players that can spare the $160 from their rolls. Further, from an anecdotal viewpoint, I attest he weekday versions are appreciably harder.

In the DS's, I cannot over emphasize the need to play LAG and acquire chips early. There is no difference between 2nd and 8th, so don't feel bad about early flameouts. Build a big stack and don't be afraid to wield it.

[LearnedfromTV]

Would someone who has played a few of each please compare the Sunday $650 field to the $215 million field? Higher buyin, but even more people who satellite in plus WSOP factor = roughly equivalent fields? Stronger but not in proportion to the buyin difference?

Thanks.

Edit: Use any other comparison measure that you think is helpful. I just want to get some sense of the strength of field.

Also, any comparison of this tourney to similar tourneys on other sites would be welcome as well. My WSOP plan is to set aside $X to play these large field/many seat supersats. X not yet determined, sites not yet determined.

[FBP]

To LFTV, FWIW I feel the 650 is harder than 215 field, because even though WSOP factor helps and all i feel too many of the fish will go through the smaller buy-in roads like DS, 33R, maybe the 320. Still it's almost certainly weaker in avg than a reg 650.

Almost on the same topic as your previous post. Do you feel this assertion is true:
WSOP sats gets fishier as WSOP approach?

My logic is the best player qualify earlier and the fish gets more and more excited as WSOP approach so they dump more and more money into the sats. Both argument would tend to make later sats easier.
Is this flawed logic? Also, can players who already qualified keep farming them and get credited the 11k$ directly to their acct?

[JCool]

LearnedfromTV, I have to tell you, I played in the Sunday $650 for the first time yesterday, and it was not as donkish as I expected. 486 players, I would say about 225 or so from Sats., the rest bought in in the last hour or so, so they obviously paid the $650. The blinds are 30 minutes, and it is a grueling tourny. It took six hours for me to go out in 43rd (top 27 won seats). Getting chips was like pulling teeth and I didnt experience any of the donkish overplayed hands you see early in the Sunday $215. But as I say, I've only played the $650 once, so take my observations with a grain of salt if you wish. Overall based on my experience so far, I would say the $650 field is much stronger than the 1 mil. and much much tighter play.

[hagbard celine]

Do you know of any good sats like the ones you mention on full tilt?

[AC91]

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Do you know of any good sats like the ones you mention on full tilt?

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On sundays for tilt there are tons of sats to the 500K guaranteed, the $24+2, and the $50+5 are both pretty easy. Lots of times I'm able to win 2 seats with about $150 or so.

[Danastasio1]

Thanks for the wisom Adanthar, this was exactly what I was looking for; playing in one of the FTP 750k Sats tonight which I think will have a field of 1000+.