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Old 11-22-2007, 10:03 PM
shat4brains shat4brains is offline
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Default good shove with QJs?

Poker Stars, $15 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: 2,980
Hero (UTG): 2,060
CO: 2,550
BTN: 2,370
SB: 3,540

Pre-Flop: (300) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to 2,060 and is All-In</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to 3,540 and is All-In</font>, BB folds

Flop: (4,320) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: (4,320) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: (4,320) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 4,320 Pot

no real reads here
is this a donk play?
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:09 PM
sippin_criss sippin_criss is offline
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Default Re: good shove with QJs?

1) no
2) yes
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:12 PM
shat4brains shat4brains is offline
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Default Re: good shove with QJs?

why is it bad? u just open fold this?
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:22 PM
Fishing2do Fishing2do is offline
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Default Re: good shove with QJs?

My brain gives an error when pushing in this spot lol, so its prolly a fold. there are very few situation in which I would push this hand.... maybe like when all the players left at the table were all UBER pro's, then I might shove. But against some random bunch of players Id definitely fold.

All you got is queen high m8, your a (big) dog against EVERY hand that will call you. You might aswell shove with 52o in this spot.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: good shove with QJs?

too light, esp w/o antes.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: good shove with QJs?

ehhh bit too deep to be pushing this UTG with no antes, with antes or with less chips it becomes more of a shove.
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:52 PM
DannyOcean_ DannyOcean_ is offline
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Default Re: good shove with QJs?

you are UTG and still have a pretty healthy stack. I don't push this ever really. Just -EV if even one person is calling loose. Also, your avatar is pimpin OP.
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:20 AM
rakemeplz rakemeplz is offline
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Default Re: good shove with QJs?

'All you got is queen high m8, your a (big) dog against EVERY hand that will call you. You might aswell shove with 52o in this spot.'

Stating the obvius, but this is definitely bad advice, shoving with 52o is way way worse than shoving qjs here. And I think you do get called with some middle/high pairs here.
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:31 AM
BeattysLuck BeattysLuck is offline
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Default Re: good shove with QJs?

Im pushing this from the button but in your current position its bad. youre a dog to whatever is going to be calling you and at best youre looking at a coinflip which is not the situation you want to be at this point in the game.
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:37 AM
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I don't like this 5 handed and with these chips stacks...
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