River action?

[SoMarginal]

villan is 27.7-14.6-1.62 over 2k hands have not seen him get out of line yet


Absolute Poker $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

[anti1k]

Never fold here. Call

[Saikkonen]

Don't know how well I like your turn 3bet, because your are actually checkraised and not being simply raised. It would be a wierd way to semibluff this one and we can only hope that he is on a semibluff or 9-something with a strong draw. Actually villain has at least two pair or one pair with a lot of outs(14) so I don't think our 3 bet will gain a lot because he will know that we will call this down and if he is on a draw we won't gain anything on the river anyway.

I'd much rather calldown here after the turncheckraise and then call any river bet both bluffs and non-bluffs.

Is my line to passive?

[Oink]

I dont 3-bet the turn

Why are we 3-betting?

Oh yeah to charge draws

But oh no. If he has a club draws isnt he firing the river UI?

Yeah

So what do you gain from 3-betting when he has a naked fd?

Nooooooothing!

[slamhound]

If a 9 is in his range? Easy 3-bet, no?

[Oink]

So then the 3-bet is to charge 9x hands

Problem is when he has a set or 97 its gonna cost you 4 bets.

When he has a fd and fires river its gonna win you nothing when he doesnt hit and loose you 1 or 2 bets when he does hit

I have stopped 3-betting turns vs TAGs here. I get capped to often or its a semibluff in which case I gain nada. (I think i mentioned that a few times now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])

[Eraserhead]

As played, would we have bet if checked to on this super scary river?

[TheHip41]

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So then the 3-bet is to charge 9x hands

Problem is when he has a set or 97 its gonna cost you 4 bets.

When he has a fd and fires river its gonna win you nothing when he doesnt hit and loose you 1 or 2 bets when he does hit

I have stopped 3-betting turns vs TAGs here. I get capped to often or its a semibluff in which case I gain nada. (I think i mentioned that a few times now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])

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exactly oink,

since the OP 3bet the turn, I think the river "should" be a fold.

I mean, the Tag knows we have AA, and he knows we aren't folding.

I think we are going to see a flush almost always.

That said, I don't fold here, but we probalby should.

[SoMarginal]

I should have labeled this turn action actually. I was questioning my play on the turn more than the river. Obv. its an easy call on the river. I didn't think that I liked my 3-bet on the turn too well and was just checking my line. Thanks!